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Because we can just ignore the fact she saves Hayate's ass on a regular basis, and has gone out to save Freyja (once though I guess technically twice since the first time she thought Hayate was up to no good in ep 1) as well. If anyone gets to vow protection for those two it would bloody be her seeing as she's already stuck doing it anyway =_=
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Yeah, she saved his life... just
once since he enlisted (twice in
20 episodes if you count episode 1,
wow!)? That's
regular basis to you? It was rare occurrence enough to be even made a big deal about it. Are you even watching this show or did you tune in a special Mirage cutscenes where she's actually relevant and amazingly developed heroine? I'll want to watch that show, if you share it. She disappears from the battlefield on regular basis along with Arad or Chuck, unless she has to give her obligatory DELTA FIVE/FOUR and swoon at Messer's/Hayate's amazing skills.
She
disappeared completely in the episode the problem began for Freyja and Hayate. KANAME saved Freyja and Hayate crashed his VF. Where was she? Don't tell me she was fighting the Drakens, because all the Aerial Knights except Keith were frozen. I guess she, Arad and Chuck decided to get a bathroom break, because they poofed.
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Two episodes ago Freyja was over pumping Hayate so hard there was no way Mirage could have possibly kept up. It was already established before that she wouldn't have caught up to Keith/Messer during their regular dogfights, at boosted it would have been far worse. If the argument then is that Hayate should have been promoted instead then well sure, try to argue that the total reckless newbie being pumped with special powers would be a great leader. Then again I guess it makes as much sense as putting the inconsistent, stumbling newbie songstress as your girl group center. This show has bad writing all around and I don't appreciate that Mirage's constantly getting the brunt of the complaints.
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Eh, no. The center was Mikumo, and Kaname was the leader. Freyja was never the center, where did you get this idea? And she was pushed and pressured to get better by Mikumo for episodes until she delivered.
Sounds to me you're just excusing the awful way she's been written with headcanon. Hayate stopped and he fell. There's been zero reaction of Mirage (or anyone) who were supposedly flying in the area (and the Aerial knights aside of Keith were all paralyzed). Because Delta Squad is really
useless outside of Hayate (and Messer, but he died). And the writers put zero effort on them. Mirage is only important when they try to do a triangle scene or subplot; when they don't, she vanishes as Chuck does. She's used as triangle seat warmer and filler, despite being a supposed main character next to Hayate and Freyja who actually get to do things and have agency outside the triangle. Of course she gets complains because she feels like a supporting character advertised as main.
It doesn't mean Arad and Chuck vanishing is good, but they aren't shoved as triangle plot device or falsely advertized which makes their disappearance act more bearable. Kaname does feel like a leader, Arad doesn't. Mirage doesn't either. Messer
did feel like a leader. I miss Messer.
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Also, so far Hayate has frequently shoved himself in such pinches and come out alive that I really doubt anyone could have expected him to fall completely- or even that Freyja's music would have caused such a reaction in the first place. Oh, and Mikumo exploded a shrine. So a lot of shit happened, but I'm sure Mirage sucks because she didn't get out of her plane singing Seikan Hikou or GAR'd it up guns ablazing.
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Mikumo did that a lot later. Again, you're making excuses for a character who has not done anything since episode 13 trying to appear all mature and useful when the protagonists are dealing with actual problems (on top of other problems they had to face last episode) while she still hasn't even resolved her minor insecurity issues. Because she's a
plot device.
EDIT: By the way, in case you missed it:
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I don't have a problem with her resolution and intervention, my problem is that it was timed for their convenience and looked tacked on her underdeveloped character. Her role seems to be fairly clear since episode 1, IMO. It wasn't becoming Hayate's dancing partner or an ace (unfortunately because this is what I wanted for her), but actually embracing a 'vanguard/protector' role of those two while they do their thing (see ep 13 and 1). My problem is that she didn't actually do anything in episode 18 to actually make me believe she can do it, sure, she could if the writers remember but leaves no credence to her character in the circumstances.
She's obviously qualified to tell these things to Hayate and Freyja because she admires them. All she did was remind them who they were. But the problem was that this should have been done after she resolved her issues.
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The idea was okay with me. In fact, when episode 13 aired, I was sure that would be her role: watch their backs while they save the day, but the romantic plot tumor derailed her in general (I called her a vanguard even). What I complain about Mirage is the execution of this along with the timing. She didn't come up with this after resolving part of her storyarc and issues, an episode or two after she rescued Hayate or Freyja. Her timing was after wasting time of making her do nothing except brood and sulk worriedly or in jealousy, and do nothing in the episode where the drama escalated. Not even a single reaction of "oh no, i couldn't arrive on time to break Hayate's fall". It's not organic or well written and makes her look like a glorified plot device which can be written at convenience to move the story along because Hayate and Freyja need to sync.
It's not attacking her character here because it's potentially going back in track to my vague optimistic view of what could she do in episode 13, but the way she's
written. I had zero issues with Mirage becoming their protector in episode 13, I have an issue they want to rewind and pretend we didn't have 7 episodes of nothing at all.
Also is pretty hilarious you accuse Freyja of being Hayate-centric when all of Mirage's scenes center around Hayate and she has barely any interaction with other people.
Look, Hayate and Freyja were flying and singing for the sake of everyone,
also for each others. Freyja is understandly concerned that her voice might be spreading var, be a weapon (when she
wants her song to bring peace and happiness)
and is hurting her best friend. Of course that she won't be looking forward singing when her reason to sing was completely shred by Berger an episode ago. It'll be out of character. To me, by the way, Hayate is far more Freyja-centric than Freyja is Hayate-centric (or even Mirage is with Hayate, because the reason why this happens is because the writers don't bother with her do anything except orbit around the triangle eh). Freyja has an actual life outside of him, her motivation and love for song was inspired by other people, she awoke her true power to save cat daddy's life. Hayate's reason to live, fly and enjoy life was brought by
Freyja. You don't need the novel to spell this aloud to you (but it is a confirmation). I don't feel that Hayate is as crucial to Freyja as Freyja has been for Hayate. She has a lot of things on her head and dumped in her in the span of three episodes. I'm just surprised she didn't break down completely.
I don't think one lecture from Mirage will just solve this either. Or hope it
doesn't. Because I want her to find her own answer to "Music is..." because "genki" was something she added on a rush during her intro concert.
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Believe me, we know who he so-called "likes", it's whether he'll admit it or not by the next couple of episodes.
Until his birthday present in episode 16, Freyja never once did sing directly for or at Hayate.
