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Old 2016-04-04, 23:50   Link #41
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Its more IS in this case because of the fact is mecha based. ZnT is a school based battle story but IS is where the mecha started although in truth i'm pretty sure there were other harems before ZnT but it is the most famous or infamous depending on who you talk to.
if i'm not wrong the "mother of the harem gender" in general was love hina where the "gender started" specially the school one, then for "action fantasy come ZnT then for mecha come IS but if i'm not wrong the first one was love hina.
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Old 2016-04-04, 23:56   Link #42
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if i'm not wrong the "mother of the harem gender" in general was love hina where the "gender started" specially the school one, then for "action fantasy come ZnT then for mecha come IS but if i'm not wrong the first one was love hina.
Truth is if you think about it Tenchi Muyo is the father of all harems period. War on Geminar is mecha. ZnT is simply the most well known because of Louise
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Old 2016-04-05, 00:08   Link #43
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Truth is if you think about it Tenchi Muyo is the father of all harems period. War on Geminar is mecha. ZnT is simply the most well known because of Louise
yeah i almost forget it, good "old times" when i watched tenchi muyio i really liked it, was really fun and was really popular but for what i read in otakus sites while tenchi muyo was more "old" love hina was the one which really did the "boom" of harem gender in that time due to school settings and all, but also both tenchi and love hina where the "parents of the nowadays harems" both of then make the gender become a "we must have".

Well let's try to give one more shot episode to see if at last the comedy could be worth of waste time otherwise i will drop it like i did with asterix, bahamut and many others.
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Old 2016-04-05, 00:10   Link #44
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If you've actually paid attention you know as well as i do a harem doesnt get interesting until there are at least 3 members only drop it after that plus its a light novel dropping it after one episode is doing it a terrible disservice
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Old 2016-04-05, 01:27   Link #45
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remember just because you only like "positive posts don't means which peoples can't post negative ones is not a matter of "decency" just taste, if you don't like just "don't read and if the post is against the rules report simple like that, better than does some sort of "insult" to peoples too.
After reading your comment and the one you quote, misunderstanding was what i saw here.

I believe He didn't imply anything about "you can't write negative comment". Firstly, saying 'near generic harem anime comments' and saying 'the animation is bad' are both different things obviously. What i saw these days in any forums like myanimelist was, omg another harem series with same settings with stratos and then emphasize in details and in circles with the knowledge of only episode 1. Already clouding judgement, in a sense an insult. If you say the fighting is bad or the ost sucks, all are ok and thats a real negative comments. "Move on and talk about something else" quoted from him, which also implies you can write anything include a real negative comment.

You are right, everyone has the freedom to say anything. But at the same time by looking at your comments closely, you are just doing the samething as him of what you call "better than does some sort of 'insult' to people". Just as you said, if you don't like just "don't read and if the post is against the rules report simple like that"

No offence to you of course. Read your comments, i know you have good judgement thats why you write against his comments. But even you and I want to see a real negative comments instead of those generic harem anime comments right?
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Old 2016-04-05, 03:36   Link #46
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Well, what a cliche start to this anime adaptation of a GA Bunko novel! I'm hoping that it didn't turn for the worst...
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Old 2016-04-05, 07:43   Link #47
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For this type of anime, it usually start all the same but the differences will show once we get deep into the the the story. That's what I found.
Agreed. Chivalry and Asterisk Wars started of pretty by the book too, but both managed to stand out by pushing out the envelope with a proper romance plot in Chivalry and the political aspect in Asterisk Wars case.

As it stands this show on the 3 episode rule to earn its own space for me. Also is the crossdressing less blindingly obvious in the source material?
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Old 2016-04-05, 07:59   Link #48
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All LNs probably have to accomplish "technical plot requirements" assigned by the publishing staff. That means keywords like "imouto", "trapped in a game", "isekai", etc.
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:04   Link #49
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If that's so, that'll only make it easier for more copy/paste stories to show up, screwing up most potential original and/or good stories that may be burning in an alley somewhere. It sure sucks...

Anyway, does anyone here know how did Ep01 fare adaption-wise? If I can ask here, that is.
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:09   Link #50
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If that's so, that'll only make it easier for more copy/paste stories to show up, screwing up most potential original and/or good stories that may be burning in an alley somewhere. It sure sucks...
Well, if you want to look at the bright side, the strangehold of the editorial staff lasts for a couple of volumes. Unfortunately, it's also the time when you begin to see how capable (or incapable) the author is in making a story, especially a story that's born from a couple of worn down concepts. That's if the LN lasts long enough.
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:21   Link #51
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remember just because you only like "positive posts don't means which peoples can't post negative ones is not a matter of "decency" just taste, if you don't like just "don't read and if the post is against the rules report simple like that, better than does some sort of "insult" to peoples too.
Didn't say anything about not allowing any negative post, but do you need to repeat the same information every episode like a nagging mom? I think you misunderstood me and here is what i was thinking, "Ok you made that point in episode one, i just hope you don't have to tell me that again in the next 5 episodes" because I can read and have already tagged the show as is. People post their opinions and criticize whatever they want to, nothing wrong with that. I get the idea that type of generic show and super cliched, but some people just have to remind me over and over again throughout the same series. Believe me i see the same faults that you are spotting, but i can accept the show as it is and just move on, but some people can't move on and have to comment about the same thing over and over again every week for the same show.

Sure i don't have to read the post, but once you read it , it can't be undone. I have been reading nearly every post since 2006 or so for the shows that i follow. The forum is something that i enjoy and in the past two yeas it is starting to become one of the 'people post just for the sake of posting' with nothing new to add. If i want that i can just go read Myanimelist. In the end i can't stop anyone from doing it, they are born with it and can't help it.
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:22   Link #52
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Anyway, does anyone here know how did Ep01 fare adaption-wise? If I can ask here, that is.
I would say it's decent. They changed some points but it's fairly faithful to the source.
Btw, does this series even has a LN Thread?
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:30   Link #53
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It does have but it seems to be rotting away for a little while.

About the pacing, that's nice to know. I liked Ep01, gotta follow.
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:37   Link #54
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Truth is if you think about it Tenchi Muyo is the father of all harems period. War on Geminar is mecha. ZnT is simply the most well known because of Louise
Did the question of the origin of a combat-school-harem style just shift to the origin of the harem genre itself? We've seen a very broad range of harem series over the years, but it only seem recent that we've had show after show with this plot about a guy entering a combat school and building a harem. Anyway, while they're all clearly derived from something (I think the IS guess is a good bet), one can always hope for something better. Just because a story shares a similar premise doesn't mean it can't surpass its predecessor. So rather than going on about how item A, B or C is standard for the premise I'd rather focus on how this compares, did it manage to be more entertaining than the other. Especially since there are people who come into this without having seen these battle school harem series before, in which case the predecessor could wind up looking like something doing what they'd seen before and not as well. There's always hope they'll find some way to break out of formula.

Also, I agree to some extent with Pen3: a broken record is really boring to listen to, so if there's been page after page of "this is derivative", or "this has been done before" will get kind of frustrating. Especially for any people who actually take an interest in the series and want to actually find some discussion of events that occur but have to wade through pages of the exact same complaint being repeated over and over. Thus, I'd say if you see more than five posts talking about how something's been done before, we can probably do without a sixth.
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:52   Link #55
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i agree with you. I have an idea roughly of the first 4 episodes. After that its a mystery somewhat and im looking forward to it
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Old 2016-04-05, 08:58   Link #56
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It does have but it seems to be rotting away for a little while.
Ok, good to know. I'm probably just to stupid to find it .
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Old 2016-04-05, 10:24   Link #57
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Question: Is there a good reason why MC was avoiding his official welcoming party at the airport, or was he just being a shy-jerk? I mean, he’s really being ungrateful to those two girls who went out of their way to welcome and escort him to school by leaving them clueless like that that they had to look for him afterwards. And thanks to that, they were being late and about to be expelled along with the Charlotte 2.0. All this mess was caused by his single mistake of not having the decency to show up to his welcoming party who meant him no harm. And he didn’t even admit his mistake? If it’s true then this bland MC lost a lot of decency points from me (he already lost a lot of intelligence points for not realizing that Charlotte 2.0 was not a boy even after that clichéd “accidental-encounter-after-shower” scene).
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Not impressed with the first episode, probably because I managed to drag through Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut last season.
For some reason it is somehow too similar for me. If there isn't anything better to watch, i might keep watching.
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Old 2016-04-05, 12:56   Link #59
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Question: Is there a good reason why MC was avoiding his official welcoming party at the airport, or was he just being a shy-jerk? I mean, he’s really being ungrateful to those two girls who went out of their way to welcome and escort him to school by leaving them clueless like that that they had to look for him afterwards. And thanks to that, they were being late and about to be expelled along with the Charlotte 2.0. All this mess was caused by his single mistake of not having the decency to show up to his welcoming party who meant him no harm. And he didn’t even admit his mistake? If it’s true then this bland MC lost a lot of decency points from me (he already lost a lot of intelligence points for not realizing that Charlotte 2.0 was not a boy even after that clichéd “accidental-encounter-after-shower” scene).
So far it seems like he just didn't want to attract a lot of attention. He would much rather just stay low key and under the radar. I agree that he should have something when he got in trouble though.
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Old 2016-04-05, 13:12   Link #60
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Question: Is there a good reason why MC was avoiding his official welcoming party at the airport, or was he just being a shy-jerk? I mean, he’s really being ungrateful to those two girls who went out of their way to welcome and escort him to school by leaving them clueless like that that they had to look for him afterwards. And thanks to that, they were being late and about to be expelled along with the Charlotte 2.0. All this mess was caused by his single mistake of not having the decency to show up to his welcoming party who meant him no harm. And he didn’t even admit his mistake? If it’s true then this bland MC lost a lot of decency points from me (he already lost a lot of intelligence points for not realizing that Charlotte 2.0 was not a boy even after that clichéd “accidental-encounter-after-shower” scene).
I think you are misunderstanding something.

It is not "official welcoming party". There is no such thing as welcome party.

MC is not a star or celeb , he is just a new student with a high potential. In this universe, new student with high potential usually get attention from the public, get scholarship, get many privileges, etc. However, MC felt uneasy about how public placed expectation on him so he prefers to stay low.

Those two girls were basically someone who have heard about his story and went on their own to welcome him at airport. (In otherword, they are his fangirl). MC didn't like it so he avoided those girls. MC needs to walk to school like normal student anyway. He didn't make any mistake here.
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