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For now I can only hope this show is able to play it a little differently though cause that whole tack is nothing really new from the guy and is kind of becoming played out already to the point where I'm doubtful he can surprise me with it anymore or get me to consider things in different ways. It's probably my biggest overarching concern about where the story might be heading though no less important than how they plan to continue whole lone man versus the might of an empire story. Perhaps they might want to take some notes from Legend of The Galactic Heroes and how that show handled that idea with it's 13th Fleet. Quote:
By the way the original Gundam TV series did actually sort of have a gimmicky Zeon robot of the week that Amuro and the White Base crew had to figure out how to defeat formula that was basically forced onto it by toy makers. I know for a fact Tomino hated it though and it was more of a tough pill that he had to swallow in order to ensure the show wasn't cancelled. It wasn't until the franchise really took off that he was able to do more or less do away with that sort of thing though. Thing is though many Gundam fan now looks back on that aspect of the TV series with a frown and disapproval and this is kind of why the movies that cut a lot of those gimmick fights out of the narrative are by and large the preferred version of the story. I find it curious though that Aldnoah.Zero would even attempt to go with an idea that Gundam tried then ultimately rejected itself in the long run as part of it's helping to define the real robot genre of mecha. Last edited by Dr. Dahm; 2014-07-31 at 13:22. |
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But like others implied, if they want to go this route, they should have the superiors notice Inaho's strategic ability and give him units to work with. So far, he's only had a few fellow students/teens to work with; it's unrealistic for them to miraculously make it out of every skirmish unscathed. Like ImperialKnight mentioned, the execution is lacking, and they need to fix it somehow. |
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However, like you said, I would really put this as just "black and white" as interestingly, despite the threat, while all high school children have to go through military training, they aren't drafted or anything and they do have choices once they graduate. As for "false hope" having everyone in a depression over how powerful the Martians are not good to a recovering economy that has just been hit by the largest global natural disaster in history. So, I can't fault them for that either. In fact, the Earth forces didn't really know the power that they truly faced anyway, since the knights never fought in the previous war. The cover up was probably for the same reason as the giving false hope. As of right now, the Martians are by and large the bad guys, while the Terrans are completely the victims. One group decimating the other for greed and power. The sides are sooo mismatched that I can't really ever see any room for grey area. No matter what the Terrans did or will do, couldn't compare with what the Martians have done. As the Martian population still has yet to reach a million, even if the Earth was to completely blow up Mars, that still wouldn't match the millions that the knights have killed and the homes they have destroyed. Right now, the scales of justice are completely in the Earth's favor, but what will that mean for the show? How shall the Earth get justice for the incredible atrocities that have been committed against it?
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2014-07-31, 23:10 | Link #48 | |
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I'll say, by the description of the hardships the colonists faced when they were dispatched on Mars, they had their reason for their distaste of Earth government in general.
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I mean the greatest find in the universe and the government ends up sending poorly trained people to "terraform" a planet that could hold important and new technologies? According to the timeline the people who "volunteered" knew that due to the lack of resources and such it'd be an incredibly difficult journey and task to terraform the planet. Yet when they got there they complained and the Earth government didn't care...I mean it seems like it was a half-assed job. No government on Earth would ever do that, especially with the chance of finding a new tech extremely high. You'd think that they'd send several battalions of soldiers with scientists, engineers, etc. to set up the foundation before sending in random people that easily got converted into a "cult" I mean it makes no sense. In any case I don't see how grey it could get. Sure maybe the Terrans would want revenge but you really can't blame them after having millions of them slaughtered within minutes and being thrown back into the stone age. |
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I'm sort of hoping that this time it's someone else's plan they put into action, and it's more a matter that the regular combat troops are too tied up trying to keep the guy from cleaving the bridge or something to get in position.
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Yes, it would be better to move on from something that could become quickly a Monster of The week format already, format I usually can't stand (I still remember E7/AO), and that Inaho will not save the day again, but I think the writers know what they are doing. Even if, considering that his opponent declared how he, Inaho, wasn't worth (implying a grudge against Inaho), I'm not expecting it happening this episode, but probably from the next one. That opponent would want to take his revenge that will doom him.
Anyways, very wth first 3 seconds from the PV I have to admit, I can't recognize any relevant details from that scene. I can recognize only some very long legs coming out from the pod that made me think that the person was Slaine's father. But if that's the princess, and not, say, his mother, I hope to be wrong I was never good with these kind of games.
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As for the scene, they are evoking this troupe: feeding water or medicine or soup to someone mouth to mouth 'cause it's hot or romantic. I'm sure some of you watched Princess Tutu, Spoiler for spoiler for the second season I guess:
Of course, on a common sense level, this mouth feeding/watering is completely against health, but it's a romantic troupe they love. Just look at that pic, his escape pod (?) just happened to land on some kind of mystical fountain centerpiece surrounded by majestic pillars that offer such a nice illumination to make the scene even more stunning. I must say they went all out if this is their meeting, I pictured something more tame, like Asseylum protecting them from an arrest or execution not well, this.
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ok, now I can see it. Thanks. Their blondness misled me to take as they were all princess' And his arms look much more thicker then I would expect, it's that I was referring to about the five times, five times thick. That considering their age and that Slaine is supposedly thin more or less like the princess. But that is due to the space-suit that gave that bloated shape.
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This was also mentioned in the japanese twitter. But maybe this is inspiration for the building? It does look great, so I imagined it had a real-life approximate they based on.
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Also, it doesn't matter if the Martians acted on their own or not. They are still officially under the power of the Emperor and thus the Empire itself. Their actions reflect that of the Empire. So what if they "rebelled" the order, even if the emperor is only a figure head, it is his job to give out consequences because of said "rebellion" against the order. He gave them their titles and their position and their "land". He can easily have stripped them of all that and named them rogues, he could have bared them from ever returning to Mars. However, he has done none of that, and so indirectly has condoned their actions for whatever they have done, and whatever they might do. As Emperor, he has allowed his knights to do what they please under the name of the Vers Empire, and so he is just as responsible. In terms of how the other Martians feel about the war, I'm not so sure as you are they they all wanted peace either. All of them seem to have a feeling that Terrans are primitives and not equal to them (we can see that from the Princess' maid, who has not lived with the knights and is not a noble, and yet she says that as if it's a fact of life), also, no one really seemed to be in support of the Princess going for peace talks as Cruhteo mentions it in passing that he's tried his best to talk her out of it, as if its the most natural notion in the world. And unfortunately, until we see otherwise, the knights and (sub-knights) are still the only real glimpse we see of Martian culture. And I have to assume that the princess' views are in the small minority. The only people so far that she's mentioned also wanting peace was Slaine and his father, who are both Terrans. So, as of right now, we are looking at a very black and white situation here. Quote:
Umm, since the princess' "magical transformation" turned out to only be technology, I have to think that everything else is technology and that the Aldnoah is a very powerful source of the alien tech. We'll have to see as the show continues.
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