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Perfect 10 | 57 | 53.27% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 33.64% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 7.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 4.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.93% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-07, 21:23 | Link #45 | ||
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Well that was... anti-climatic. That feeling might partially stem from all the hype which included the whole thing about Gen calling this episode his masterpiece, but still, in the end, it turned out to be just one big tease. It was a viscerally thrilling ride and all, but in the end it didn't really offer much in the way of true substance, nor was there any real payoff to all the build up from the previous episodes. And pulling the "characters get to see it, but the audience doesn't" card at the end was just lame. Why further extend the mystery and suspense when the reveal had been built up perfectly and the time was just right for the bomb to be dropped? So it can never live up to the even bigger expectations people will have now?
Not only that, but it seems that Kougami really meant nothing beyond temporary entertainment to Makishima, who ended up failing quite spectacularly. And save for the brief quoting, their confrontation ended up being just a less well animated Spike vs Vincent. Quote:
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As for Bureau Chief Kasei not being human, that was already heavily hinted at the end of episode 13. I would hardly call it a twist. The only twist in this episode was that there was no real twist. As to what will happen now, I guess the protagonists might find Kagari's fate to be suspicious and begin to inspect Sybil as a result. |
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2013-02-07, 21:54 | Link #47 | |
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Kougami really loves hospital doesn't he?
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2013-02-07, 22:00 | Link #48 | |
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2013-02-07, 22:00 | Link #49 |
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The only thing I didn't like about this episode is the doofy faces during Kougami and Makishima's fighting... I was like who makes those faces?
Interesting twist at the end though. Hard to believe there are still 6 episodes left.
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2013-02-07, 22:04 | Link #51 | ||
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But the system still must be overthrown and thus is why Makishima isn't still dead yet. He and Kougami will work together to destroy Sybil. |
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2013-02-07, 22:05 | Link #52 | |
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Oh lets not forget Maki has been caught with no clear story showed on his true intentions way to go nice job. Heres a better ending Maki escapes whats the point of having him out class kogami to get caught really, The director kills the hacker before he opens up to see sybil which was just a empty room and Kaigiri escapes with the pics and the director lies to the team and makes them hunt him. See that much better now the plot has room to develop and does not reach terminator/alien the movie level of scifi cause tho good that does not belong here at all.
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2013-02-07, 22:13 | Link #53 | |
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More than enough hint that they will cooperate in one way or another to overthrow Sybil. |
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2013-02-07, 22:15 | Link #54 |
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I thought the episode was really good and actually was unexpected. People keep saying it was predictable but I read through all the threads and I didn't see anyone guessing this was how the Akane/Kougami/Makishima conflict would go down. I assume this was the confrontation we saw in the first episode (although maybe I am wrong).
Does it feel a bit anticlimactic? Makishima is defeated (so it seems). We see the brain/heart of the sybil system but Kagari is supposedly killed before anything can be revealed. I understand there were no exciting reveals except perhaps the section chief. Makishima who seemed indestructible gets taken down by a bop to the head with a helmet. We had the taste of the secret of the sybil system and it was taken away from us but... We still have 6 episodes left. This might be the beginning of the end but it's not the ending. To me I question what Akane's decision of not killing Makishima will really mean in the end? Should she have killed him? And not just because he is dangerous himself, for some reason the section chief wanted him alive. Perhaps we didn't get all the answers we wanted but I am happy I still have many questions.
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2013-02-07, 22:41 | Link #56 | |
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The Akane/Kougami/Makishima side of things was definitely not predictable though, but that's not always a good thing and in this case I certainly feel as if more predictable would have been preferable. Not that I have anything against Akane being the one to bring down Makishima, I just expected (and hoped for) a more personal and intellectually stimulating showdown (as was the case in episode 11) rather than the straightforward and relatively vapid martial arts duel we got. And for all the speculating on Makishima, I felt this episode cheapened his character a little in that he did come off as someone just trying to kill boredom this time around. And, in the end, his "villain's flaw" that allowed for his defeat was just... carelessness. Again, not what I've come up to expect from him or Urobuchi. Of course, we're far from the end yet and these issues can still be turned around depending on the ramifications of this whole conflict and the direction things take from now on. I'm certainly not claiming this episode killed the series. As you said, there's still questions to look forward to, I just felt this was the right time to answer some of them and that others deserved better (provisional) answers. |
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2013-02-07, 23:03 | Link #57 |
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This episode and the two before it have made for an excellent thrill ride, and this part was definitely the most exciting part of that thrill ride.
Also, this ending to the arc isn't exactly predictable, imo. What I find with Gen is that he's great with setting up endings that seem unpredictable going into them (I felt the same way about Madoka Magica prior to its final two episodes), but the finale unfolds in such a plausible and profoundly in-character way that you seriously wonder if any other ending was really even possible. In other words, Gen's finales are almost too good, too tight. They're not truly predictable, but they do feel a bit anti-climatic. Going into Episode 16 of Pyscho-Pass, I honestly thought either of the following was possible: 1) Makishima succeeds. Sibyl comes crashing down. The rest of Psycho-Pass is about our (surviving) protagonists picking up the pieces and trying to find a new order that can take the place of Sibyl. 2) Makishima fails. Sibyl survives. Kougami and Akane achieve their victory over their hated foe. The rest of Psycho-Pass is about our protagonists truly confronting Sibyl. Makishima is a "mid-boss", antagonist-wise, albeit an excellent one. But after watching Episode 16, it's hard to imagine a finale fitting as well as this one did. It's an interesting strength/weakness that Gen has here. It's enough so that I can't give it 10/10. It does leave me feeling oddly unsatisfied once the ED plays, even as I realize the great technical merit and entertainment value in what I just watched. I can find no real, concrete flaw in the episode itself. And the overall package was superb - Great action scenes, great showdown between Makishima and Kougami, sharp dialogue and strong BGM. Akane proving her worth with a dramatic (but totally believable!) last second rescue. The Director being a cyborg (or purely artificial?) was a bit surprising, I suppose. I am interested in seeing where that leads. In the back of my mind, I had a thought about the Sibyl system that I felt was too outlandish to speak of. But now, I'm not so sure. My thought was that the logical extreme of Sibyl is... The Borg. Of Star Trek fame. That Sibyl is slowly but surely turning people into totally obedient and completely docile borg drones. The collective is everything, the individual is unimportant. But as strong as my misgivings over Sibyl were, I felt that take was a bit extreme, so I kept it private. Until now. Now the hidden darkness of the Sibyl system appears very dark indeed, with the Director herself being at least part machine. Sibyl leading humanity into a borg-like state now seems like a bit more than a vague and disturbing familiarity. If not the borg, perhaps we're dealing with something like Terminator's Skynet. Just instead of killing all of humanity, they decide its more effective to just turn humans into sheep. I also liked Kagari in this episode. I think his take on the wider situation does a good job of reflecting where a lot of viewers were at - Yeah, Sibyl is horrible, but the guys causing these riots are a bit monstrous in their own way. 9/10 is my rating for this episode.
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2013-02-07, 23:14 | Link #59 |
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I wonder now how will the end of the anime (episode 22), because when I saw the prologue Makishima and Kogami in episode 1, I thought this scene would be to episode 22 brief for conclude the anime but finally no...
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2013-02-07, 23:19 | Link #60 |
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But she doesn't believe in the system. She believes in reality. So, if it's proved that the system doesn't work, she would accept that reality and move on. That's the reason why her psycho-path doesn't get clouded to begin with, remember?
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