Real life gundam

[2H-Dragon]

Originally Posted by Sobresaliente

oh yes agreed..... BACK ON TOPIC LOL what do you think the time frame would be that an actual functioning gundam would be feasible?

Never...Since if you slap that technology on a fighter plane or tank it would be better and cheaper.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by Sobresaliente

the problem about everything is a fighter jet would rock the shit out of everything, the only thing that cant take out a fighter jet is a fighter jet or AA missiles.

While it's true that a fighter is only vulnerable to certain types of weapons, they are in turn only capable of defeating certain machines (and this is highly dependent on their loadout). Moreover, aircraft have lots of difficulties finding/hitting ground targets, and they are in turn ineffective as long as the enemy has an effective air defence system working.

Originally Posted by Sobresaliente

ok for the gundam to work, it would have to be modified hardcore. 50m, way to big, possibly like the M-9 in FMP, that might work, they are about half the size. as for weapons, modified cannons. im sure you can modify a tank cannon to use smaller ammunition and incorporate semi-auto action!!!

The Full Metal Panic Arm Slaves are an improvement over mobile suits, but at 7-9m tall, they still make for easy targets. About the largest sizes that are practical would be VOTOMS Armored Troopers (and even they are a bit on the large side). The real key is that the mecha will have to occupy a combat niche that isn't already fulfilled by a more efficient vehicle.

As for smaller-gunned tanks, the ZSU-57-2 mounts two 57mm autocannons with a rate of fire of 70 rounds/min apiece. Something like that would slaughter just about any non-MBT on the battlefield.

Originally Posted by Sobresaliente

oh yes agreed..... BACK ON TOPIC LOL what do you think the time frame would be that an actual functioning gundam would be feasible?

We've got a very long way to go before we can build a legged drivetrain rugged enough to withstand the stresses of combat. We've got even longer to go before we can come up with an efficient enough control mechanism for such a machine. The hardest part is figuring out an actual use for something similar to a Gundam, so the most likely answer is never. If you're talking about something practical like an armored exoskeleton, then I imagine another 50 years or so will get us there at the current rate of technological growth.

[duotiga]

Originally Posted by Tak

Its no secret that the reason behind the F-2's existence is to keep the Japanese aero-industry happy. Cmon, why all the sudden fuss over the F-2, its not like the Japanese government or the JSDAF ever promoted it.

Besides, they will soon be getting JSF F-35s, why do they care.

- Tak

They rather have F-22 than F-35 which they keep asking the US to release the export sales of it.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by duotiga

They rather have F-22 than F-35 which they keep asking the US to release the export sales of it.

Of course they would. They been pushing it for months!

But why F-35s? Obviously because the Japanese government find the purchase of the F-22 to be highly unlikely, that leaves the F-35 as their best next choice.

Strategically speaking, the US do not believe Japan has a need for another advanced first-strike fighter (they are the only Asian country with F-15s, after all). The Chinese, and their N. Korean puppets are making sure they do not provoke Japan or the US enough to make that happen.

Stay tuned.

- Tak

[Sobresaliente]

for space use, you wouldnt need planes, wings are for atmospheric flight, arms and legs could be used to adjust position.

humanoid with multiple arms and legs could be a better option... i am talking out of my ass right now LOL

[Demongod86]

Space fighters? GL HF designing one that can fight in space and after re-entry. The material for re-entry is rather heavy, and if that gets damaged, well, wasn't it the Columbia that got blown apart because it was slightly damaged on the underside and so got ripped apart by the heat to a tiny unshielded area?

[Sobresaliente]

http://www.gizmodo.jp/2007/10/post_2477.html


another little goody i found online... gun pod anyone?

[Tak]

Hah, funnels!

What next? Mobile Armor? Actually, that would be far more pragmatic than 50ft Gundams.

- Tak

[-Wraith-]

Moble Armor should be a good start before Humanoid Models. Like the Skygrasper. Then, later think of wired gunbarrels which i doubt anybody can do control

[Sobresaliente]

those funnels, they do have complete controll over, the fact is the fuel to propel it is in such a short supply cuz look how small the pod is. these are like orbitals in Armored core as well.

[Deathwing]

even if it could be made piloting the damn thing would be near impossible. Do you know how much effort it take to make a machine that actually walks like a human being? Its hard as hell to do if not impossible. It would take a good amount of time to master making it walk let alone putting it in combat. and planes would be able to fly circles around something that clunky it makes a giant target

Something like this would be a dream for simple things like construction but having it form complex maneuvers while getting shot at is a different story

[Tak]

Making a 60ft robot is one thing. Making a 6ft robot, is another.

I'd rather keep an open mind about what is possible and what isn't. After all, 60 years ago, people thought jet propulsion was impractical & impossible.

Then the Germans surprised everyone.

- Tak

[Sobresaliente]

Tak Liebst Deutschland LOL yes i agree with you tak, if you go back 100 years they would not imagine what we have now. Technology is growing at an alarming rate, making something bipedal would be tough but no where near impossible. trial and error will perfect it and make it reality. whether it will look like a gundam is just based of fans dreams LOl frankly i think a real life mecha will look nothing like any anime mecha. Anime makes it look cool, to bring the idea to reality we will need to make it practical.

[Zenemis]

Well, if you're lucky, you might get a smile out of one of the opposing soldiers, before they tore it apart (if it looked like a Gundam) :P

[2H-Dragon]

Still no matter how you look at it. Gundams will never be practical enough for real war fare. Maybe it will be made, but as a tool for war no.

[mist2123]

Originally Posted by 2H-Dragon

Still no matter how you look at it. Gundams will never be practical enough for real war fare. Maybe it will be made, but as a tool for war no.

might not be today maybe its tomorrow

[msea]

Originally Posted by 2H-Dragon

Still no matter how you look at it. Gundams will never be practical enough for real war fare. Maybe it will be made, but as a tool for war no.

Tools of war or not, nobody knows what the future holds. If everyone retains their optimism for anti-war ideals, there won't have any wars wouldn't it. But lets face the fact, wars will continue to exist as long as we exist.

[GoldAlchemist]

If Gundam were ever to be made, i'm not even arguing for the superiority of it here, if ever to be made, we need to solve the problems about the joints. That itself would be a huge engineering breakthrough. Even if it's built, wear and tear at the joints would make it prohibitively expensive to operate.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by GoldAlchemist

Even if it's built, wear and tear at the joints would make it prohibitively expensive to operate.

If StarGazer is of any indication, artificial muscles may be the answer to your concern.

- Tak

[Icehawk]

If a true functioning 18 meter tall mobile suit of some kind ever were to be made and I am sure that at SOME point in our future it will probably be physically *possible* to make one, it would only ever be used as a show piece for entertainment and crowd pleasing kinda like that old "Robosaurus" they made back in the 80's and displayed at monster truck events and such. It really wouldnt be practical for actual warfare even if and when we had the capability to make them with similar performance to what we see in anime.