Mahouka - Episode 13 Discussion / Poll

[MonkeyDude]

This week's episode of KYAAAAAAAAA TATSUYA-SAMA~ did not disappoint! We had Tatsuya being awesome, Tatsuya being even more awesome, and did I forget to mention Tatsuya is awesome? He and his groupies swept through the competition as if they were there solely to showcase their absolute superiority! Then the gall of those redshirts addressing Tatsuya-sama and his emotionally labile imouto in that fashion! You can just FEEL the tension in the music!

Well bad jokes aside, anyone else found how hilariously misplaced the music was on most of the scenes? Especially the track used on the epilogue...I swear one of them better die with music like that.

[larethian]

Originally Posted by Arlia

From what I saw since I'm here, Mahouka and Mekaku City actors are god tiers in spoiling the content of the original or explaining everything to anime viewers to prove they're wrong to be bored/confused.

Not exactly. They are both god tier in repetitive whining like SAO. But Mahouka spoilers are more or less still limited to comparisons to non future content (though admittedly allusions are being made here and there). Mekaku city thread has unfortunately become a total cesspool of blatant spoiler discussions......

[Ultragunner]

Nevermind those issues, can't we just make peace, stay calm and enjoy the anime?

Spoiler for :

kakaka

[novalysis]

I liked the allusion to the Siblings family situation with the Yotsuba clan themselves, from their conversation in this episode. Sadly, I think that the anime has alienated too many viewers to Miyuki and Tatsuya that the reaction is a silent meh, as seen by the lack of speculation on how Miyuki and Tatsuya are linked to the clan they nominally belong to.

And... more Tatsuya worshiping this episode, but that's not a new topic.

[whydo]

Originally Posted by IceHism

Inferno combined with niflheim looked so cool.
That was a fun watch

That wasn't nifheim. It was just inferno. Inferno from what I remember is removing the heat away from your side and put it on the other side. Similar to how a refrigerator works. Miyuki side is cold while other persons side get the heat removed from her side.



That said overall after having watched 13 episodes the overall score I'd give this anime is 5/10. They've taken away too much.

[Benigmatica]

Originally Posted by novalysis

And... more Tatsuya worshiping this episode, but that's not a new topic.

You know, the more Tatsuya is being praised by his peers, the less Miyuki say about her brother, let alone saying "Onii-sama!" everytime.

Speaking of Miyuki's "Onii-sama!" catchphrase, I wonder how many she uttered so far?

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Benigmatica

You know, the more Tatsuya is being praised by his peers, the less Miyuki say about her brother, let alone saying "Onii-sama!" everytime.

Speaking of Miyuki's "Onii-sama!" catchphrase, I wonder how many she uttered so far?

I think far more interesting, is Miyuki's use of Onii Sama in light of their family situation. Theoretically, they are siblings, and the Yotsubas are not Patriarchal , as seen by their female clan head. So why is Miyuki addressing her brother as Onii Sama, a sign of inequality and submission, when by all accounts, her brother is considered an inferior within the family? Is her catchphrase not so much a personal verbal tic, but a sign of some kind of hierarchy or response to hierarchy among the Yotsubas? Why should Miyuki elevate her brother over herself? When by all implications, Tatsuya is her inferior within the Yotsuba clan, as seen with the meeting between Tatsuya and Miyuki, and their father, Yotsuba's chief financial steward, in an earlier episode?

And how does Miyuki's use of Onii Sama relate to their conversation with the Yotsuba's in this episode?

[maplehurry]

Originally Posted by larethian

Not exactly. They are both god tier in repetitive whining like SAO. But Mahouka spoilers are more or less still limited to comparisons to non future content (though admittedly allusions are being made here and there). Mekaku city thread has unfortunately become a total cesspool of blatant spoiler discussions......

The mods here are more strict with future spoilers I think.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by novalysis

I think far more interesting, is Miyuki's use of Onii Sama in light of their family situation. Theoretically, they are siblings, and the Yotsubas are not Patriarchal , as seen by their female clan head. So why is Miyuki addressing her brother as Onii Sama, a sign of inequality and submission, when by all accounts, her brother is considered an inferior within the family? Is her catchphrase not so much a personal verbal tic, but a sign of some kind of hierarchy or response to hierarchy among the Yotsubas? Why should Miyuki elevate her brother over herself? When by all implications, Tatsuya is her inferior within the Yotsuba clan, as seen with the meeting between Tatsuya and Miyuki, and their father, Yotsuba's chief financial steward, in an earlier episode?

And how does Miyuki's use of Onii Sama relate to their conversation with the Yotsuba's in this episode?

It gets more interesting when you remember Miyuki is one of the stronger contenders to be the next head of the clan. Information on the anime's web page makes Tatsuya's coment that he thinks he could beat his aunt interning

[Traece]

If Tastuya's harem grows any larger it might collapse in on itself and form something new entirely. I feel like that's what 12 and 13 have been, cute girls winning competitions and then becoming groupies.

Miyuki's show was pretty impressive. She does so little that I always have to remind myself that she's probably the most skilled magician in this cast in terms of magician skills.

The competitions in Mahouka remind me of FIRST Robotics. Everyone builds a typical robot to do what needs to be done for that year's competition, except those couple of teams who throw such notions to the wind and make a purpose-built robot that's borderline cheating. Why make a robot push a ball into a goal when you can just have it extend a thing that redirects the scored ball back into the goal when it's recycled onto the field? Why shoot discs like a normal person when you can literally cause them to self destruct inside your target zone at press of a trigger? For that matter, why race on a magic-propelled board when you can knock out your competition at the very start with a light show?

In short, I wouldn't be surprised if most people hated First High's guts due to their constant gimmicks to take victory. I won't deny the genius of the maneuvers, but I also can't ignore that they're basically seeking out every loophole to win. At least it makes for an interesting episode.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by Traece

If Tastuya's harem grows any larger it might collapse in on itself and form something new entirely. I feel like that's what 12 and 13 have been, cute girls winning competitions and then becoming groupies.

Miyuki's show was pretty impressive. She does so little that I always have to remind myself that she's probably the most skilled magician in this cast in terms of magician skills.

The competitions in Mahouka remind me of FIRST Robotics. Everyone builds a typical robot to do what needs to be done for that year's competition, except those couple of teams who throw such notions to the wind and make a purpose-built robot that's borderline cheating. Why make a robot push a ball into a goal when you can just have it extend a thing that redirects the scored ball back into the goal when it's recycled onto the field? Why shoot discs like a normal person when you can literally cause them to self destruct inside your target zone at press of a trigger? For that matter, why race on a magic-propelled board when you can knock out your competition at the very start with a light show?

In short, I wouldn't be surprised if most people hated First High's guts due to their constant gimmicks to take victory. I won't deny the genius of the maneuvers, but I also can't ignore that they're basically seeking out every loophole to win. At least it makes for an interesting episode.

The battle board maneuver was just a more effective version of what was done at the start of Mari's first match by the girl who was in second place. Everyone is seeking out loop holes.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by kagato3

The battle board maneuver was just a more effective version of what was done at the start of Mari's first match by the girl who was in second place. Everyone is seeking out loop holes.

I can see why creating a wave that sends you forward while keeping the others back would be in the spirit of the competition. I can't help but think that Honoka's move being legal just means the rules are badly written.

(And what's next? Turn the water into ice bullets and fire them at opponents?)

[LKK]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I can see why creating a wave that sends you forward while keeping the others back would be in the spirit of the competition. I can't help but think that Honoka's move being legal just means the rules are badly written.

I don't think that the rules are badly written. I think they're loosely written on purpose to encourage creativity. Kids can be wildly inventive at times partly because they haven't developed set ways of thinking yet. For the military, this can be an opportunity to see new possible attack methods for the small price of hosting a competition. (I've been thinking about why would the military offer up their base to host the 9SC. That was one reason I came up with.)

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

(And what's next? Turn the water into ice bullets and fire them at opponents?)

Probably not. Didn't Tatsuya say that directly attacking an opponent during Battle Board was against the rules?

[maplehurry]

If one recognizes that the rules are "badly written", then what Tatsuya did should be considered a smart move. Because even if Honoka can win this race IF everyone plays "fairly", you cannot really count on other competitors to play "fairly". You have no idea what they are going to pull, so you may as well be the one to do it at the beginning of the match and get a good lead.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by LKK

Probably not. Didn't Tatsuya say that directly attacking an opponent during Battle Board was against the rules?

He did, but taking that same line of thought, what's to stop someone from getting in first and then literally turning the water behind them into ice? You wouldn't be attacking the other competitors, just basically walling off their route.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by LKK

I don't think that the rules are badly written. I think they're loosely written on purpose to encourage creativity. Kids can be wildly inventive at times partly because they haven't developed set ways of thinking yet. For the military, this can be an opportunity to see new possible attack methods for the small price of hosting a competition. (I've been thinking about why would the military offer up their base to host the 9SC. That was one reason I came up with.)

I wouldn't mind if they wanted Battle Board to be more battle and less race. But then the rules should reflect that.

Probably not. Didn't Tatsuya say that directly attacking an opponent during Battle Board was against the rules?

Yes, so you can't use magic to push competitors off their boards. What I proposed was freezing a bit of water and giving that frozen bit some speed. It's no different from lighting up the water. Heck if you can somehow use Newton's Third Law to accelerate as a result of throwing hailstones behind, you've got an even better excuse!

[kagato3]

Most likely because it be too difficult to do that and still be moveing. I doubt even Miyuki could flash freeze a couple of cubic meters of moveing water and unless there is a way to keep the board trapped in it it just becomes snow boarding for a second or less.

as staated in the anime majic can only be used on the surface of thewater to disrupt the opponents and I seriously doubt that anything that could be considered hurting an opponent is legal. So throwing hail stones in not valid but maybe leaving icebergs would be but I would still see that as extremely difficult to do while maintaining your balance on a surf board, moveing the board, navigating the course.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by kagato3

Most likely because it be too difficult to do that and still be moveing. I doubt even Miyuki could flash freeze a couple of cubic meters of moveing water and unless there is a way to keep the board trapped in it it just becomes snow boarding for a second or less.

Yeah, probably. But speaking of nasty things to do with ice: freezing a sheet of water under someone's board at a critical moment (just before a turn) to get them airborne. That should be much easier.

[GDB]

How would that not be considered attacking them, when the intended result would likely cause them to break multiple bones?

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by GDB

How would that not be considered attacking them, when the intended result would likely cause them to break multiple bones?

You're just preparing a ramp for yourself. And interfering solely with the water. Their broken bones is nothing but a side-effect. Just like Honoka's competitors being blinded is just a side-effect of her lighting up the water for... reasons.