SaiGar 2008 -- The Tournament of Men Among Men

[Malintex_Terek]

My thanks Daisuke, I've been quite over-burden as of late.

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

PS. I define Gar as just Plain AWESOMESS that all must bow down to.

Gar isn't really just "awesome", though. It's "manly/badarse", with badarse en-circling the awesome part. If we drop the whole manly moniker, Gar just becomes a synonym for "1337", "epic", "cool", "legendary", "win" etc., a mere sign of approval.

We don't need more of those when we have so many as is.

...

I'm still undecided as to who I want to vote for. As of right now, I'm looking into not well known characters to get them into the tournament and get some recognition - last year, I voted in Sleepy "John" Estes from Mad Bull 34 which got SOME attention, but not too much.

It'll take a while for me to dig up manly men who were merely forgotten.

At the same time, I'm neutral toward SaiGar's silent permission of females. While it does set us apart from SaiMoe in being less sexist, and while it is true women can be manly in the same way men can be womanly, there is potential for lame entries like "Konata". >_>

Also, at first I had no idea how powerful anime like Hayate and Lucky Star are as far as allowing entries from other shows. I mean, from Hayate:

1. The Cabbage
2. Nabeshin
3. Koichiro "Coach" Ohta

[Zeroryoko1974]

This tournament, is it going by Japanese or American release dates?

[minhtam1638]

Originally Posted by Zeroryoko1974

This tournament, is it going by Japanese or American release dates?

Japan.

Looks like the mystery nomination will be left unsaid...

[-PoLLuX-]

So... are you allowed to nominate girls as long as they are manly?

[cicido]

Originally Posted by -PoLLuX-

So... are you allowed to nominate girls as long as they are manly?

Well ya, unlike saimoe, they don't have the gender rule.
But most people just do it for the lulz.

[Terrestrial Dream]

5.Gai Shishio- He is the pinnacle of Gar. He also pilots GaoGaiGar, the robot has Gar in it, nothing is more Gar then that .
4. Kamina
3. Viral
2. Simon
1. Master Asia.

[Kaioshin Sama]

I'm just curious to find out on what grounds people think Shiraishi Minoru qualifies for Saimoe.

[OverFunk]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

I'm just curious to find out on what grounds people think Shiraishi Minoru qualifies for Saimoe.

Episode 22 or 23 Lucky Channel, where he goes batshit insane against Akira.

It was goddamned worthy...

[Midonin]

I remember people saying "Shirashi for SaiGar" right after he trashed the set. Time to make it happen.

[KaneDragon]

A lot better reception this year for some reason... *recalls the fate of a certain SaiGAR thread made last year...*

Originally Posted by OverFunk

Episode 22 or 23 Lucky Channel, where he goes batshit insane against Akira.

It was goddamned worthy...

Yeah, I had him on my initial list as I posted earlier, but he got edged out of my top 10 by better men.

[Eviltape]

This is some of the strangest stuff I've ever voted in.

1. Shiraishi Minoru - Lucky Star (HE MUST GET IN)
2. Dutch - Black Lagoon: The Second Barrage
3. Ayasaki Hayate - Hayate the Combat Butler
4. Rock - Black Lagoon: The Second Barrage (I'm at a loss)
5. Simon - Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Modern-day Shinji, deserves just a mention)

[d.sinclair]

Originally Posted by Eviltape

5. Simon - Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Modern-day Shinji, deserves just a mention)

I understand where you're coming from, but...no! Shinji is the anti-GAR. Simon is a GAR-god. You can't even begin to compare them.

And I'm nominating Balalaika. That woman put chills down my spine during the twincest arc.

[KaneDragon]

Two Shinji's come to mind: Fate Stay Night and Eva. Since you're talking about giant robots, I'll assume you meant Eva. Not that it means anything to me either way.

I must pray for forgiveness now, for I hath forgotten someone very important: Takahata Takamichi, of Negima!?. Even ignoring the manga, Takamichi got a huge boost for the remake. Chilling in the background with Eva, enjoying ramen and tea, saving the day from time to time...


Since Albert Chamomile (aka Col. Sanders) is just manga, I guess I have nothing more to say about him...

Spoiler for top 14, not quite in order:

Seto no Hanayome Michishio Nagasumi
Negima!? Negi Springfield
Goshūshō-sama Ninomiya-kun Ninomiya Shungo
Kaze no Stigma Yagami Kazuma
Darker than BLACK Hei
Darker than Black November 11
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai Maebara Keiichi
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai Ryugu Rena
Hayate the Combat Butler Ayasaki Hayate
Bleach Zaraki Kenpachi
Negima!? Takahata Takamichi
Clannad Okazaki Tomoya
Lucky Star Shiraishi Minoru
Code Geass - Lelouch of the Rebellion Lelouch Lamperouge

The 5 limit is mildly annoying, but whatever.

[Zlostur]

Originally Posted by Malintex_Terek

Gar isn't really just "awesome", though. It's "manly/badarse", with badarse en-circling the awesome part. If we drop the whole manly moniker, Gar just becomes a synonym for "1337", "epic", "cool", "legendary", "win" etc., a mere sign of approval.

We don't need more of those when we have so many as is.

Agreed!

According to the official definition GAR is the epitome of what it means to be manly and badass. Otherwise we would just be voting for our favorite character. "AWESOME" is just not enough!

Originally Posted by Malintex_Terek

At the same time, I'm neutral toward SaiGar's silent permission of females. While it does set us apart from SaiMoe in being less sexist, and while it is true women can be manly in the same way men can be womanly, there is potential for lame entries like "Konata". >_>

Although I agree that women can be manly and badass, there are none that deserve that title from the ones that I've seen. Revy(Black Lagoon) comes close, but still not enough for a top 5 spot. Also, there is potential for lame entries even if we restrict the tournament to men only. I've seen some examples of that already - Itou Makoto (School Days) - who is as un-GAR as anyone can be.

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

In Nanoha's case she is very Gar and obviously moe at the same. She is one the few MoeGar characters out there. Just look at my sig and Avatar. Name another magical girl that kick as much ass as Nanoha and name another Shounan hero that has less Emo moments the Nanoha.

To me that is impossible - being cute and badass at the same time - they are like mutually exclusive. A badass character has to be intimidating and I cannot possibly be intimidated by a cute face. I don't know, maybe you've seen something that I missed and have some compelling reason to see Nanoha as a manly character. To me people who nominate her are either joking or have not seen many shows with truly manly characters. Also I can give you many examples of shounen heroes who have less emo moments than her (meaning they have none or close to none).

In the end, I have decided to participate, even though I still think the outcome is obvious:

5) Kamina (TTGL) - duh!
4) Kurogane (Tsubasa OVA) - few have attained his level of manliness
3) Zoro (One Piece Movie 8) - same as above
2) Viral (TTGL) - almost as good as #5, but not as many great moments
1) Wei (Darker than Black) - fought a battle that he knew he would lose - that's pretty manly for me

[-PoLLuX-]

If someone nominates Lelouch Lamperouge and someone else nominates Lelouch Vie Britannia or Ryugu Rena and Ryuugu Rena, does it count as the same character? quite confusing nominating in english

[KaneDragon]

I just copy all the names from Wikipedia, and the series titles from the list of eligible shows. I'm sure it'll all work out.

[jost]

Nagasumi & Hei

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by KaneDragon

Since Albert Chamomile (aka Col. Sanders) is just manga, I guess I have nothing more to say about him...

you mean "Albirio Imma" instead? because Camo is in the anime ?! incarnation as well ^^"

[cicido]

At least we can all agree that this won't be a fair tournament if TTGL doesn't make it to the finals.
Or more specificly, *cough* Kamina *cough*.

[tbl]

I can't vote, my ISP uses a proxy