Xenoblade Chronicles 3

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Shinji103

Spoiler:

If that’s the case though, why was she still in there after Nia was awakened?

Honestly though, it’s pretty obvious she was in there as an excuse to keep her out of the story.

Why would that matter?

Spoiler for XB3 late game:

The worlds were still frozen in time by Moebius.

No one except Nia knows she is there, and Nia isn't going to pull her out even if she could until it was safe (which to her isn't until Z is gone from controlling the world)

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Why would that matter?

Spoiler for XB3 late game:

The worlds were still frozen in time by Moebius.

No one except Nia knows she is there, and Nia isn't going to pull her out even if she could until it was safe (which to her isn't until Z is gone from controlling the world)

Spoiler:

Not to copy or mock you, but why would that matter? Why keep her sealed away just because the worlds are still frozen?

Why would it be any more dangerous for Hana than anybody else? It’s not like the Moebius were after her or wanted to kill her specifically.

I’m not trying to make a big deal out of this, but i just don’t know why she would be in there the whole time everybody is fighting for their lives and for the world.

[Shadow5YA]

Spoiler:

Because from Nia's perspective, Hana is her friend, not a tool. She has no reason to pull Hana out until Origin's activation and by proxy everyone's lives are safe.

The people who were already stuck in Aionios because Moebius had no choice. There's a big difference between Noah's party volunteering to fight Z to break out of the cycle they were already caught in and the implication of Nia prematurely conscripting Hana into a world no one wanted to be in.

[serenade_beta]

I finished the game too

https://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/2022/0...-thoughts.html

Spoiler for spoilers:

I'm not gonna say its bad, but I think the most value this game has is the fact it pretty much said Xenoblade 2 doujinshi were correct, since I don't think the worlds rewind that far back at the end.
Also, lol, Melia. Nia gets a baby, and she gets a hunk of junk.

Originally Posted by Shinji103

Spoiler:

Not to copy or mock you, but why would that matter? Why keep her sealed away just because the worlds are still frozen?

Why would it be any more dangerous for Hana than anybody else? It’s not like the Moebius were after her or wanted to kill her specifically.

I’m not trying to make a big deal out of this, but i just don’t know why she would be in there the whole time everybody is fighting for their lives and for the world.

Spoiler for spoilers:

I mean, none of it matters. The worlds are gonna rewind and reset. As long as the protagonists win, nothing else matters. People can die or get hurt or whatever.

[Shinji103]

On another note,

Spoiler for Noah in the final part of the ending:

I didn’t catch it the first time watching it, but did anybody see that Noah actually disappears as he’s heading towards Mio’s flute sound? He literally fades away as the camera zooms out. (which is why I didn’t notice it the first time)
That’s actually horrible. One would presume he went to see Mio as he promised, but now Lanz, Eunie, and Jorran won’t know what happened to their friend who disappeared. I hope that just leads into the DLC story next year and everybody is still reunited.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Shinji103

On another note,

Spoiler for Noah in the final part of the ending:

I didn’t catch it the first time watching it, but did anybody see that Noah actually disappears as he’s heading towards Mio’s flute sound? He literally fades away as the camera zooms out. (which is why I didn’t notice it the first time)
That’s actually horrible. One would presume he went to see Mio as he promised, but now Lanz, Eunie, and Jorran won’t know what happened to their friend who disappeared. I hope that just leads into the DLC story next year and everybody is still reunited.

No he didn't. Just to make sure I went by that scene frame by frame and he's still there until the camera zooms out.

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

No he didn't. Just to make sure I went by that scene frame by frame and he's still there until the camera zooms out.

Yes he did. I checked frame by frame too and he disappears when the birds fly across the screen. Classic birds fly by and the character is suddenly gone. This is after the camera has already zoomed out a long way, past the clock tower. A second or two after he walks by the Nopon, he’s about to pass behind somebody when the birds fly by and after that split second he’s not there behind the guy anymore, an empty space where he was walking. In that spot he was the only one walking in that direction towards the left of the screen. You can just make it out, but zooming or magnifying (or holding the screen up close on iPad or iPhone) will help.

Like I said I missed it at first too. Then I was reading the plot section on Wiki and it says he “disappeared from the world.” I went back to the ending to see if that actually happened, and true enough he disappears where I point out above.

Noah disappearing has been pointed out on Reddit and various other places as well. Do a Google search for “Xenoblade 3 ending Noah disappeared,” then do a word search for “disappear” on any article/thread if you want to get right to it. https://goombastomp.com/xenoblade-ch...ing-explained/ even points out it happens at the exact same time I pointed out: “and this is a blink and you miss it moment so it is likely most players will not notice—Noah disappears as soon as the birds pass the camera”

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Shinji103

On another note,

Spoiler for Noah in the final part of the ending:

That’s actually horrible. One would presume he went to see Mio as he promised, but now Lanz, Eunie, and Jorran won’t know what happened to their friend who disappeared. I hope that just leads into the DLC story next year and everybody is still reunited.

Spoiler:

Why would everyone be united? They don't even know each other anymore. Unless they Deux ex Machina it and only the main characters remember each other for the sake of it. Noah magically disappearing is a mystery though. *shrug*

But if they had a sequel, I'm more interested in seeing Gigachad Rex then Xeno 3's characters

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler:

Why would everyone be united? They don't even know each other anymore. Unless they Deux ex Machina it and only the main characters remember each other for the sake of it. Noah magically disappearing is a mystery though. *shrug*

But if they had a sequel, I'm more interested in seeing Gigachad Rex then Xeno 3's characters

Spoiler:

I want them to be reunited because I don’t want Lanz, Eunie, and Jorran to suffer through their friend just disappearing like that. They’ll be wondering what happened to him for the rest of their lives.
It certainly looked like Noah had at least some remembrance of that song when he so calmly walked towards it with a smile on his face.

I would have wanted to see gigachad Rex for 2’s DLC. But he had his story, this one is theirs.

[stray]

The only thing XC2 was good for was the memes though, and they couldn't help themselves in XC3 either.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Shinji103

Spoiler:

I want them to be reunited because I don’t want Lanz, Eunie, and Jorran to suffer through their friend just disappearing like that. They’ll be wondering what happened to him for the rest of their lives.
It certainly looked like Noah had at least some remembrance of that song when he so calmly walked towards it with a smile on his face.

I would have wanted to see gigachad Rex for 2’s DLC. But he had his story, this one is theirs.

Spoiler:

While Noah did seem to disappear in the epilogue, technically, no one has said he disappeared. That's what it looks like, but it could have been some kind of imagery. Though if they canon-nize Noah disappearing, then yes, they definitely need to focus more time on giving a good reason why. Otherwise, XB3 literally just takes a step backwards from the start of the game to when you beat it, which is even worse than the fact none of the characters you met really throughout the game necessarily exist anymore.

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler:

While Noah did seem to disappear in the epilogue, technically, no one has said he disappeared. That's what it looks like, but it could have been some kind of imagery. Though if they canon-nize Noah disappearing, then yes, they definitely need to focus more time on giving a good reason why.

Spoiler:

Mmmmm, it’s pretty cut and dry that Noah disappeared there, official word or not. You don’t make something like that in an ending so clear (sort of, you know what I mean) just to go “faked you out!” They literarily did the “birds fly by and he’s gone!” move. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean they won’t leave this as a big question mark. The only hope we have of getting answers to what happened is if the DLC follows up. OR maybe if they do a fourth game, however likely that is. (I have no idea what a fourth game would be about)

[cyberdemon]

Glimmer is definitely Pyras daughter

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Glimmer is definitely Pyras daughter

More like Mythra's daughter. She has a harsher personality like Mythra and they're both voiced by Shino Shimoji.

Her Japanese name is also kagiroi. One possible kanji combination that has that reading is 火光, with both the kanji for fire and light.

[cyberdemon]

Her hair is red though

[Klashikari]

Spoiler for End game:

To me, considering she is an odd amalgamation of Homura, Hikari and Pneuma in term of design, I wouldn't be surprised if she represents the Pneuma core in Aionos, just like how we got a female version of Alvis whereas Avlis (or another version of him?) is seemly playing the antagonist. She also has an Agnus birthmark on her right arm, so she is very likely not the same as Rex and Shulk in that regard.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Spoiler for End game:

To me, considering she is an odd amalgamation of Homura, Hikari and Pneuma in term of design, I wouldn't be surprised if she represents the Pneuma core in Aionos, just like how we got a female version of Alvis whereas Avlis (or another version of him?) is seemly playing the antagonist. She also has an Agnus birthmark on her right arm, so she is very likely not the same as Rex and Shulk in that regard.

She also has the same green Aegis core crystal that Homura/Hikari had.

[serenade_beta]

So we're not gonna get DLC that expands on the ED of Xenoblade 3? We're just gonna get a bunch of stuff involving past game characters?
Sure, I mean, most people probably care more about 1 and 2 than 3 anyways...
Then again, I bought the DLC and haven't touched any of it (except the free items available at release), so I'm not one to talk

[Shadow5YA]

A has Vision as her Talent Art, and she has half wings when she shows her power.
Maybe Alvis was split somehow?
https://twitter.com/XenobladeJP/stat...44473764945921

Also Nikol is most likely supposed to be either Shulk's (and Fiora's?) son or descendant while Glimmer/Kagiroi is probably Rex and Pneuma's child.
But considering they start out under control of the Flame Clock and have Keves and Agnus tatoos, I'm probably willing to bet they're not the originals and probably have no memory of Shulk and Rex during the game.

Maybe some split version of Alvis was planning on erasing the entire universe to get rid of Z and Moebius, which forced Rex and Shulk to temporarily accept Z's help to start the Endless Now as a way to buy time, and now they have to get themselves out of it?

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

So we're not gonna get DLC that expands on the ED of Xenoblade 3? We're just gonna get a bunch of stuff involving past game characters?
Sure, I mean, most people probably care more about 1 and 2 than 3 anyways...
Then again, I bought the DLC and haven't touched any of it (except the free items available at release), so I'm not one to talk

Why would we? It's set before the main campaign just like the Torna DLC was to Xenoblade 2.

Spoiler for Founders' statues:

If you take another look at the Founders' statues found in the City, you can see that the characters in the DLC are all the same as the statues of the Founders found in the City when Noah's party visits the place.



The statue for House Vandham is pretty clearly Matthew.
The statue for House Ortiz is Nikol, who was described to be a Kevasi that was a master mechanic.
The statue for House Reid is modeled after Shulk, whom was described to have lost his right arm and wielded a red sword.
The statue for House Doyle is a catgirl described to be the sibling of House Vandham, which means it's Nael/Niall, who was stated to be Matthew's sister.
The statue for House Cassini's mentor was described as wielding two swords and lost one eye in battle, and it matches up with Rex.
The statue for House Rhodes says that she was a Agnian solder, and we can see that it looks exactly like Glimmer/Kagiroi.

The only one missing is the Seventh Founder, who was rumored to have not wanted one. Given that everyone else is accounted for, that means A is most likely the Seventh Founder.

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Spoiler for End game:

To me, considering she is an odd amalgamation of Homura, Hikari and Pneuma in term of design, I wouldn't be surprised if she represents the Pneuma core in Aionos, just like how we got a female version of Alvis whereas Avlis (or another version of him?) is seemly playing the antagonist. She also has an Agnus birthmark on her right arm, so she is very likely not the same as Rex and Shulk in that regard.

I don't think so, given that we can see they're still fighting Moebius in one scene of the trailer. There's also one scene showing the Trinity Reactor where you can hear Shulk saying something about a "gift from Alvis".

Most likely the DLC will be about

Spoiler for end game:

The Founders and the completion of the first fusion-type Ouroboros.

The description of the Founders described that they were the first ones to perfect Ouroboros, and the statues all match up with the playable characters for this DLC.

In one scene we can also see Niall/Nael transformed and wearing Alvis' red Aegis Core Crystal, so I think they will discover Interlinking/fusion.

Most likely what transpired is that Alvis had intended to wipe out the entire universe to eliminate Z and Moebius, but eventually relented and instead chose to split his powers. That is what led to the birth of A, and the party perfecting the power of Ouroboros.

Moebius will most likely still be the main antagonist.