Re:Monster [WN]

[kazzuya13]

The manga is already being translated.
Furthermore what does this mean

Spoiler for Evolution:

Does this mean that he skipped evolution?

[grisia]

Originally Posted by bladestorm91

I found the ln on amazon, maybe they sell it somewhere else also.

Can you give me the link to it on amazon?
I couldn't find it.

[bladestorm91]

Originally Posted by grisia

Can you give me the link to it on amazon?
I couldn't find it.

Spoiler:

On amazon they only have it to the third volume.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=ntt_at...alias=books-jp
You can also buy it here where they have all the volumes.
http://www.kinokuniya.co.jp/disp/CSf...nster&SF_FLG=1

[DevilHighDxD]

I kinda wish he killed all these damned Goblin, I don't find it pleasant that my race is being kidnapped and force to bear their kind. But for a good thing, he still bear some sympathy for those women who are captured and has bit of "human" in him.

[tonyorobsky]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

I kinda wish he killed all these damned Goblin, I don't find it pleasant that my race is being kidnapped and force to bear their kind. But for a good thing, he still bear some sympathy for those women who are captured and has bit of "human" in him.

Well, he is a goblin now, he is no longer human. And they don't do it for the fun of raping women, it's for survival. Even if one does not like it, it's necessary.
I'm reading the novel (GT), he offered those (almost completly broken) women the salvation they desired.


Also,@Kazzuya13, no, he didn't skip an evolution. If you read the manga correctly you should know that hobgoblin is the first evolution of goblin. Is it the blessing that confused you??

Reading the GT i'm staring the period between day 31 and day 40 and I'm asking some precisions about some characters:
Gob Gil-kun and Gobue/ Gob Bue. I get that they seem to have a high rank among the others goblins. Is Gobue/Gob Bue a girl??

[bladestorm91]

Originally Posted by tonyorobsky

I'm reading the novel (GT), he offered those (almost completly broken) women the salvation they desired.

Spoiler:

That salvation you speak of, is it "that"?

Spoiler:

Poison?

[sasuke706]

Originally Posted by kazzuya13

Does this mean that he skipped evolution?

No. It'd be more accurate to call a variation evolution a special evolution. Variations and the like seem to always be overall better than the normal version, but they have to clear special unknown conditions to get the god blessings that seem to cause these. Gobrou's variation, for example, has black skin instead of green and he gains access to a certain magic he rarely ever uses for some reason.

Originally Posted by tonyorobsky

Gob Gil-kun and Gobue/ Gob Bue. I get that they seem to have a high rank among the others goblins. Is Gobue/Gob Bue a girl?

Gob-e/Gobe is a female. I have no idea who "Gil" is, but if you mean the two hobgoblins from the older group, they're both female.

Originally Posted by bladestorm91

Spoiler:

That salvation you speak of, is it "that"?

Spoiler:

Poison?

Yes.

[bakato]

Let's be honest. They were already dead.

[bladestorm91]

Originally Posted by bakato

Let's be honest. They were already dead.

Well yeah he could mercy kill them, but there was no need to. It was obvious that Rou was eventually going to become the leader and after becoming one he could have dealt with them in another way. Like you can break down a person you can always rebuild them. But then again Rou doesn't care THAT much about them.

[kazzuya13]

The reason why goblins rape human women because they have low birthrate on their own. Even though Rou did have a goblin lover it is hard for her to get pregnant. However if he where to do it with a human woman it is a lot easier.

Furthermore I'm curious as to what the offspring of an Apostle demon(Rou) would be?
Would it still revert and became a regular goblin?

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by kazzuya13

The reason why goblins rape human women because they have low birthrate on their own. Even though Rou did have a goblin lover it is hard for her to get pregnant. However if he where to do it with a human woman it is a lot easier.

Furthermore I'm curious as to what the offspring of an Apostle demon(Rou) would be?
Would it still revert and became a regular goblin?

Apparently

Spoiler for Rou's future kids:

Half-human Large Ogre 【半人大鬼】
Half-human Large Ogre 【半人大鬼】
Greater Large Ogre 【上級大鬼】
Human 【人間】 (the alchemist woman gives birth to her)
Apostle Demon/Ogre 【使徒鬼・亜種】

These were all from his human wives, Mi hasn't gotten pregnant yet.

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by Xacual

Apparently

Spoiler for Rou's future kids:

Half-human Large Ogre 【半人大鬼】
Half-human Large Ogre 【半人大鬼】
Greater Large Ogre 【上級大鬼】
Human 【人間】 (the alchemist woman gives birth to her)
Apostle Demon/Ogre 【使徒鬼・亜種】

These were all from his human wives, Mi hasn't gotten pregnant yet.

So the evolution is inherent by the offspring. So 4/5 has already in the 3rd stage of evolution. Which to me seems kind of like a cheat.
Furthermore does his longevity change in evolution because a regular goblin at the age of 20 is already at deaths door at old age.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by kazzuya13

So the evolution is inherent by the offspring. So 4/5 has already in the 3rd stage of evolution. Which to me seems kind of like a cheat.
Furthermore does his longevity change in evolution because a regular goblin at the age of 20 is already at deaths door at old age.

I would assume it does.

[deathcoy]

I kinda feel that having human females to procreate allows the monster's future generations to evolve especially in intelligence department lol.

Anyways, do all the monsters face the same reproduction problem as goblins?

And can the Humans evolve too?

For those who are offended by the abuse the human females are facing, just look at it this way. If the goblins and humans situation were reversed and humans can only reproduce via impregnating goblin females, i bet its deemed "ok" by the readers lol, since we're humans too... Honestly i think the goblins are as disgusted that they have to make love to a human female, the same way humans have to make love to a goblin female(in a reversed situation i mentioned) if you get what i mean... Can you imagine you have to bang a gorilla to have children lol?

[Galakrond]

well just think about it why do we think that a certain part of the female upper body is so interesting? because in our evolution we begun to associate it with a better chance of survival for our offspring and now take on the view of the goblins for a view seconds: "oh i see female goblin and rigt near her a femal human..... hmmmm...... female goblin not good for offspring human female better....." now who do you think the goblins sees as attractive?

(english not good for me^^)

[merpati]

This is what I got from reading the web chapter via GT:

Humans cannot evolve, they have job system. Monster type is determined by birth or evolution. This is explained in the LN, I forgot which page.

[tacitus]

Originally Posted by deathcoy

And can the Humans evolve too?

Spoiler for answer/chapter 3 spoiler:

If I understand google translation corrrectly humans can't evolve, they have instead occupations and they can have more than one occupation. e.g. the blacksmith has the occupations [Chapman], [appraiser], [blacksmith], [spirit blacksmith], and [Our Lady of Onigo](google translated). here is the japanes text from chapter 3 of the web novel about human evolution, if someone wants to translate it:

Spoiler for japanese text:

さて、今の内に【職業（ジョブ）】について語っておくべきだろうか。
　亜人種やら獣人種やらその他のモンスターやらとにかく人間では無い生物には【存在進化（ランクアップ）】 という法則がこの世界には存在する。そして俺の言い回しからも分かるかと思うが、【存在進化（ランクアップ ）】という法則が人間には無いのだ。
　ただその代わりとして在るのが、多種多様な【職業】である。
　人間は基本的な能力がモンスターに大きく劣る。
　だから多くの【職業】を獲得――どれにもそれなりの条件があるようだ。そして強力なモノほど条件は厳しい らしい――する事でより多くの“恩恵／補正”をその身に宿して自己を強化し、強大な敵に立ち向かうのだそう だ。
　それに【職業】レベルは誰でも時間をかければあるラインまでは簡単に上昇するし、ある程度の適正がある者 なら上位職に【位階上昇（ランクアップ）】する事が可能である。

　【勇者】や【英雄】と呼ばれる存在が出来上がるのも、この【職業】の補正が大きいのだろう。
　そして実際に【職業・英雄】とかあるらしいと言うのだから笑えん。

　もっと噛み砕いて言えば、モンスターの【存在進化（ランクアップ）】は個体の素質に大きく左右されるが一 度でその地力を飛躍的に上昇させる事ができ、人間の【位階上昇（ランクアップ）】は成長はモンスターと比べ 遅いが時間をかければ誰だってそれなりの力を持つ事ができるのである。
　数段飛ばしで行くか、一段一段確実に行くか、と言った感じだろう。
　もしくは質と量のような違いかもしれん。

ちなみにコレはゴブ爺からの情報なので正しいと思われる。

[Trevent]

I haven't really read much of this novel yet, so I can't give a good comparison, but the premise of this novel is very similar to another web novel I've been reading titled ゴブリンの王国. I'll give a translation of the synopsis and some additional details

Spoiler for synopsis and spoilers:

"I'll carve my name into this world such that it will never disappear! I'll obtain everything to the ends of this world!"
This is a tale of myths.
A tale of humans, elves, demi-humans and demons.
A man with his human memories intact subjugates the monsters and manages to become king, ruling over the Forest of Darkness. However, surrounding it are the humans who stand at the top of the world. To overturn their position as the hunted, the monsters' king cites military rule and challenges the humans reigning surpreme over the world to battle.


Further information: Like in Re:Monster, the protagonist is reborn a goblin with his human memories remaining. The goblins also contain an evolution system that branches off into variants. The most common evolution system consists of Normal Goblin -> Red Goblin -> Noble -> Duke -> Lord -> ??. Goblins are ruled by a hierarchical structure, where the lower ranks serve the higher, and the higher treat the lower as trash. But that starts to change as the protagonist revolutionizes the system into something new.

This is a saga telling of an unnamed protagonist who refers to himself as 'King'; of the allies he makes, trials he overcomes, and subordinates he raises as he struggles to make a world his in a world turned against him.

If I had to compare the two, I'd definitely say ゴブリンの王国 greatly outstrips Re:Monster. It epitomizes the ardours of a king(at least to me) and the author even manages to incorporate the story's myths into his writing for a refreshing reading style(It might make reading it through google translate a pain though. Never tried so I wouldn't know). Give it a try. It won't disappoint.

[DevilHighDxD]

-.-
I wonder if it's your mother/wife/daughter/sister is the one who got captured will you guys say the same...

[bladestorm91]

Is anyone willing to make a list of everything Rou ate (to the latest novel or web novel chapter) and what he gained from it? From the spoilers I read, the list would amuse me greatly.