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Malkuth · 2011-11-22, 07:12

Time travel, LOL... so at what distance can they detect them before they are emitted?

Get real guys, faster than light speeds have been observed, and without violating the relativity theory's equations already... but that has nothing to do with sci-fi time travel.

Causality, entropy, and unidirectional time are things that won't break unless religion becomes again dominant, like in the middle ages

Paranoid Android · 2011-11-22, 08:20

This is a rather blown up topic by the media. This 'discovery' in the particle physics have a much less impact than reporters think.

If Einstein's coined theory were to be proven wrong convincingly, they'd have to accelerate a particle known to have mass from below C and then faster than C.

I think a recent physicist's explanation was quite on the spot. The particle is faster than light in data but there is a new unknown distorting factor that allows particles to appear to be faster relatively to speed of light in vacuum.

I believe OPERA had accurately calculated the velocity with what we've already known. But the fact that they claim neutrinos to travel at a velocity barely faster than the speed of light mildly close to the point of insignificance and no faster, tells me the neutrino is still bound to a constant just as the speed of light is; with an unknown affecting factor we haven't heard of or taken account of.
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Also, it may perhaps be that the speed of light being a photon particle is actually a slowed down version of a neutrino? Maybe it's photons that have this 'hidden' factor that causes it to be slower than the highest possible velocity in existence. Maybe relative theories should refer to speed of neutrinos rather than C. In scientific significance, it doesn't make much of a difference, it won't be surprising if they were developed using the 'mathematically' wrong reference (speed of light).

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Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	Time travel, LOL... so at what distance can they detect them before they are emitted? Get real guys, faster than light speeds have been observed, and without violating the relativity theory's equations already... but that has nothing to do with sci-fi time travel. Causality, entropy, and unidirectional time are things that won't break unless religion becomes again dominant, like in the middle ages

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Paranoid Android Underweight Food Hoarder Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kitch-Water and T.O., Canada Age: 33	This is a rather blown up topic by the media. This 'discovery' in the particle physics have a much less impact than reporters think. If Einstein's coined theory were to be proven wrong convincingly, they'd have to accelerate a particle known to have mass from below C and then faster than C. I think a recent physicist's explanation was quite on the spot. The particle is faster than light in data but there is a new unknown distorting factor that allows particles to appear to be faster relatively to speed of light in vacuum. I believe OPERA had accurately calculated the velocity with what we've already known. But the fact that they claim neutrinos to travel at a velocity barely faster than the speed of light mildly close to the point of insignificance and no faster, tells me the neutrino is still bound to a constant just as the speed of light is; with an unknown affecting factor we haven't heard of or taken account of. --------------- Also, it may perhaps be that the speed of light being a photon particle is actually a slowed down version of a neutrino? Maybe it's photons that have this 'hidden' factor that causes it to be slower than the highest possible velocity in existence. Maybe relative theories should refer to speed of neutrinos rather than C. In scientific significance, it doesn't make much of a difference, it won't be surprising if they were developed using the 'mathematically' wrong reference (speed of light).