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View Poll Results: Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen - Episode 20 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 2 | 12.50% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 2 | 12.50% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 2 | 12.50% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 18.75% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 18.75% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 6.25% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 12.50% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 6.25% | |
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2016-02-21, 13:37 | Link #41 | |
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I dont know about you, but for me, my friends stop being my friends when they decide to attack my community or anything that is dear to me without a just cause. So much for those Soldiers in the fort opening the gate because they are concerned about her safety. Little did they know that she gives no shit about them or their family and literally guiding the enemy into their country. They should have kept the gate closed and rain arrows on them. Then Kuon wont have to feel worry about her friends anymore since they will be all in a better place. Not sure how she gonna face her deceased real mother though.
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2016-02-21, 14:13 | Link #42 | ||
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Or she could at least own her selfishness and say she choose her life of one of Yamato's troubleshooters over her duties as a princess and Tuskuru subject. Because her excuse of wanting the war to end makes no sense whatsoever. Quote:
Oh, sure, maybe in her head she isn't betraying anyone. Who knows? But the facts, the physical reality is that she did. |
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2016-02-21, 14:44 | Link #43 |
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As a side note, I created a Game Comparison thread, and deleted some posts in this thread. If you want to compare between the game and the anime, please go there.
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2016-02-21, 15:33 | Link #45 | |
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2016-02-21, 16:20 | Link #48 | ||
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I personally I think it would be best if she just stay out of it really. Or perhaps attempt to create a third faction, but that might happen down the line anyway. Quote:
Doesn't sound like it, otherwise he would stayed far away from it. Last edited by Iron Maw; 2016-02-21 at 16:58. |
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2016-02-21, 17:26 | Link #50 | ||||
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They delivered supply to Yamato and attacked the fort supply storage in the process. Yeah, they are not attacking at all. Spare me the semantic.
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Except this case is not in reverse. And Tsukuru citizens did not worship Hakuro as a god (even though he is the closet thing to it) as far as season 1 showed me. Quote:
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Tsukuru has no obligation whatsoever to accept the request. This statement reeks of victim blaming right here.
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Bringing up Haku is pointless. He is not a native of either country, thus has no loyalty to his brother to begin with it. He's only helping out because Oshutoru pleaded with him. If weren't Kuon he wouldn't as conflicted about it participating (remember he dislikes war, but he doesn't want to his allies die either). Quote:
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Her friends in Tusukuru are not going to surrender, she knows that. Quote:
I even said that I was Tusukuru side because they aren't the aggressor, I'm noting that Kuon is an unique position among cast unlike everyone else "Yarr! Tusukuru" or "Yarr! Yamato" because they both home to her fill with people have taken care of her and allow to enjoy her life to point. The only one victim blaming anyone is you. We know real causes of this mess is but your using your bias to attack people who merely doing their duties just as their enemies are. Last edited by Iron Maw; 2016-02-21 at 19:45. |
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2016-02-21, 23:17 | Link #52 |
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How sweet of Munecika trying to limit civilian casualties while she is the aggressor in this war. Doesnt matter how you try to justify Kuon decision though, she is still a traitor to her country. The only reason she is not treat as such is just plot armor.
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2016-02-21, 23:57 | Link #53 |
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I'm gonna make this simple. Who ordered the war? Munecika or the Emperor? Who makes decisions that govern the direction and actions of the country? Munecika or the Emperor?
The only thing Munecika is responsible for besides actually winning the conflict is the conduct of her soldiers and the treatment of her enemies. She has been shown nothing be a respectable commander and decent person unlike some her colleagues Vurai or Dekopowhatever. Your reaching like hell if your trying to vilify her when you have no basis for it. There no reason to believe she won't treat POWs well. She following the orders of liege just as Benwai and Kurou has done countless times. Their no different from each other in that respect, beyond who they serve. And whether Kuon is considered a traitor depends on how Tusukuru see it. But what has been shown so far doesn't like either Aruruu, Kamyu or Karuna do. Take that as you will. |
2016-02-22, 00:57 | Link #55 | |
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2016-02-22, 14:44 | Link #58 | |
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Look, I believe this is just unproper adaptation from the source material, which is why you seem confused about certain things. Anyways, moving on... Benawi and Kurou arent even the strongest members of Tsukuru and, yet, the former was on par with one of the strongest Generals. I doubt Yamato could have a chance against the likes of Touka, Oboro, Karula, the twin Archers and other beasts, like Kuuya if she still was mentally normal.
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2016-02-22, 15:57 | Link #60 |
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I love how Kurou basically called Kuon out of her BS by saying if she was serious she could tear the country in two but since she hasnt shes just playing around lol. Regardless of her motives i can not be on her side with this decision. To me she is betraying her country regardless of the reasoning. Trying to end of the war quickly is admirable but who will be victor which side are you supporting to win. Caring about your friends has merit but invasion usually ends up being occupation.
The emperor does not understand he really does not want to wake up Hakuro. He may have lived a long time but he does not seem to understand. As i said last episode even thought they didnt show it. There was no way Munechika was going to be able to stand toe to toe with Benawei. He was not even tired the problem with the 8 pillar generals is they depend on these masks for overwhelming power. What happens when they cant use them and have to fight an exceptionally skilled warrior. If the fight had continued Benawei would have killed her. The whole point was to wrap this up before the emperor called Vurai to finish the job. Regardless of this one small victory they are still struggling to make any gains and Tusukuru has even deployed all its forces and generals. So there is a good chance 1 or 2 of the other generals will show up. They suggested that mask nullification does not work on Vurai's mask but i am sure they know this and would have prepared a counter measure. I cant see Tusukuru surrendering and I would never side with the aggressor so i hope Yamato gets their ass kicked. But with the Emperor dead there is now a lot wild cards in play. Who will succeed him as leader of Yamato and will they continue this quest and war. Too sudden for him to die im sure someone killed him, someone who is trying to capture power for themselves. I wish i could say i like this season but i really dont its too little too late, it pales in comparison to the first season. Im just finishing it because i cant stand not to finish something.
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