2023-08-19, 13:13 | Link #4682 |
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I agree with you guys about how it makes no sense for Rio to not have asked Sora about himself or the divine war. For how much he's been shown to be the curious type with so many questions, he sure didn't ask anything. It also just seems out of character now that I think of it.
I'll also say this: The Six Wise Gods seemed like idiots, despite how smart they're supposed to be, for what they did to the Six Great Spirits and how they've now got them pissed off at Lina (and, by extension, Miharu) when she's much better than them and even tried to stop them. But yeah, we don't know much about that, so I won't say anything more.
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2023-12-27, 13:59 | Link #4693 |
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- Thx for keeping us updated. It's been so long, guess I'll dish out a baseless theory so that someone roasts me to jog my memory. Where were we again, Lina (possibly) took over Miharu's body. Iirc the voice(s) that talk to Miharu talked in 2 different ways of speaking, so that makes them 1 of 3 things i guess: 1/ two different people. 2/ same person purposefully changing their way of talking. 3/ same person with a split personality, or same being split into 2. Whichever the case, I believe vol 24 made it almost certain that Lina is talking to Miharu, has plans for the girl and possessed her at the end of the vol. Then there is the voice that talked to Celia, as per Rio's deductions, this couldn't be Lina cuz the voice said that "it was a success" after giving Celia some powers, so they're watching live, and the manner in which they talk is different from the voices with Miharu iirc (weak evidence). I guess this could be Lina's familiar. Would make sense as the power Celia received is that of a wg familiar. It might also be Lina's familiar that was watching in vol 3 epilogue, since iirc again, the voice reacted when it saw Rio and talked about the repeating cycle or war and whatnot, the only people that should be able to see vol3 Rio and react in some way are the sealed 6 gs, the dead Lina who can see the future and possibly has a way to share what she sees with her familiar without serious repercussions to the futures, or a 3rd party that hasn't been introduced fully yet. Comment 2: - Is nobody interested in what I wrote, or is it that literally everyone moved to discord? Comment 3: - well, guess the time has come to show off my one man conversationalist skills Last edited by hihoperorin; 2024-01-03 at 11:58. |
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No person would change their speech patterns after the third talk without the need to pretend they are someone different, the voice that told Miharu to not remember yet two times has no such need, the first voice didn't make it so Miharu wouldn't remember her so she would have realized it in her first dream if she was being talked to by the same voice. I think Miharu is being possessed by the person that talked to her on her dreams but I don't think she is Lina, Lina is death so of course she can't keep an eye on things on real time to try to guide Miharu or stay on her toes for the right moment to posses her. There is no material on which to base a response to the last two sentences, but I don't think the great spirit are really able to observe anything, in volume 20 the earth's great spirit didn't seem precisely updated on the latest state of affairs.
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2024-01-06, 16:07 | Link #4695 |
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The Great Spirits are trapped inside their respective Armaments, so I don't think they can watch the events in real time. As Jagt just pointed out, the Earth Spirit not being updated on current events tells us as much too.
And yeah, Lina's dead. She could see the future and probably had a few contingency plans, but she can't interfere in real time either. I'm not sure about a familiar of hers because they should be dead by now too, and Celia is a descendent of the homunculus familiar who long since passed away too. I also think it'd be great if the memory issue is resolved in this volume. Though Rio being on the cover isn't proof enough of that.
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Btw I'm not sure Lina's familiar is alive, but nor can we say she's dead either, I mean Ryuou was dead, yet Sora kept her immortality. But wait, wasn't there something about the familiar following Lina into battle, I'm not sure, regardless, it could go either way. On progress, I think we can all expect Kitayama to deliver on this volume and be actually hopeful. My basis for that is Kitayama's words about a turning point and actual substantial development, why would the author make such a promise and then not deliver. Now I suppose with the recent trend in vols and events, a reader wouldn't hold their breath and expect much, thinking that at most Miharu might regain her memories, or Rio would have a small breakthroughs with the rules. I believe it's impossible for the changes of vol 25 to be limited to that. Since in vol 22, Celia regained her memories, yet Kitayama didn't make a big deal out of it and call it an important or big turning point, nor did he call Rio receiving the masks that. I believe ultra optimistically that we can expect something along the lines of Miharu (possessed) returns Rio to a state of being recognized by the world as a normal mortal as long as he doesn't use extinction/annihilation, then Rio assimilates with Aishia and fights Reiss and the golems, finally, as he is now bounded or whatever you'd call it, all the girls will remember Rio. We mght event get Rio regaining some of his dragon trait or so. |
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I agree if rules are still going to be a thing then Rio will need to be bound. Not sure what that entails. Though playing devils advocate, if rules remain this volume, then we really need to focus on Rio and the transcendents and not on Celia, the girls and heroes. When you think about it, Rio went away in vol 22 to learn about the rules and transcendents. However he pretty much came back empty handed. Reiss and Elle received more information from his visit than he did. Though you can argue Reiss and Elle learning Rio was the dragon king and lina is most likely behind him as a win for Rio's side, as Reiss decided in volume 24 to slow down their plan's execution due to Lina's involvement, but otherwise not much was gained from Rio's side. Knowing this not sure both Lina and the author want Rio returning to everyone yet. I'll settle for the girls remembering for now if nothing else. |
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2024-01-09, 16:36 | Link #4698 |
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I told this on the discord server too. I think the rules disappearing or not depend on them having fulfilled their role or not. What was the rules' role then? To create a sense of danger, now that Rio can assimilate with Aisia and that even without assmilating is stronger than before nothing can be a physical danger to him anymore, that's why we needed the danger of Rio losing his memories in exchange of that. Once the rules' role as the danger to Rio is done they should disappear and right now we have already plenty of next danger candidates in the form of the unbound Fenris, whatever Elle and Fenris are cooking in the dungeon, the need to bring Takahisa back and the mysterious person talking to Miharu on her dreams. I think the need of having the rules keep serving as the danger for Rio is over so for the time being I'm hopeful about their disappearance.
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1/ He is fully subjected to the rules, so can't really fight in most situations. 2/ he is stuck to a human body + doesn't have his dragon body, so can't use annihilation + can't nullify/reflect mana based attacks + doesn't have nearly a shadow of his former physical might or spirit arts throughput. They don't know the current him or how he would fight. Mainly one point: assimilation, this was most assuredly Lina and Ryuou's trump card to the current him. It lets him use annihilation, probably reclaim his dragon body the more he uses it, gain more or less immortality and probably much stronger spirit arts when in use. Current Rio is a literal nightmare to anything that tries to kill him, since self defense is legit by the rules. Of course Aisha wasn't there in the dungeon, but iirc Reiss didn't even seem to care about her presence, indicating he thinks it's all the same, so I'm talking as if she was there. I believe the rules will go as you said, but they're too strong to be completely gone, as I said earlier, I think Rio will become unaffected by the rules but if he uses annihilation he will be subject to them again, as in, pre-vol 20 battle. This also heightens the danger level of strong enemies including Reiss and L I suppose. Last edited by hihoperorin; 2024-01-12 at 02:54. |
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