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Old 2007-05-11, 10:03   Link #21
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Gai may be stronger than kakashi, but weaker than kurenai because him mainly as a taijutsu user may be prone to genjutsu more than the others. And kakashi having the sharingan allows him to counter kurenai's genjutsu. Asume is sort of in the middle of each 3 of them. Its like paper rock scissors, so i'll have to go with shikamaru's father. God knows what tactics he'll come up with seeing how shikamaru thought 200 steps ahead during a match, he'll probably finish thinking ahead BEFORE his opponent even started.
The thing is we know that Gai can use other jutsu's other than Taijutsu.
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I put Gai slightly ahead of Kakashi as for
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I think Asuma, then Anko, and then Kurenai would be the next strongest and possibly Ebisu...
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Old 2007-05-11, 10:26   Link #22
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My favorites:

1. Gai
2. Kakashi
3. Hiashi/Asuma/Kurenai (All about the same in my book)
4. Neji
5. Shikamaru's father (he has the Shadow Paralysis jutsu + Strangle jutsu ftw!)

What are these "anti-sharingan" abilities of Gai that I've been hearing about?
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Old 2007-05-11, 10:58   Link #23
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Gai's anit-sharingan ailities are not looking directly into the eye but instead looking at the feet and body and interpreting the moves fom them.
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Old 2007-05-11, 11:16   Link #24
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Is Chuck Norris a jounin?
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Old 2007-05-11, 11:53   Link #25
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Is Chuck Norris a jounin?
na chuck wuld be hokage level lol
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Old 2007-05-11, 12:05   Link #26
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I always thought the top three were Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma in that order. Asuma’s databook stats are more well rounded than Gai’s, but I see him just a tick below the other two.

1. Kakashi
2. Gai
3. Asuma

Then I go with some of the clan heads.

4. Hiashi. Strongest guy in Konoha’s second strongest clan.
5. Shikaku. Based on recent events. This guy is badly underrated and might even be on par with Kakashi and Gai.
6. Shizune. Tsunade without the super strength.
7. Chouza. Just imagine a stronger, more intelligent, and less clumsy Chouji.
8. Kurenai. A late bloomer. She was only appointed to jounin right before we pick up the series.
9. Shibi. The Aburame are one of the four royal clans of Konoha. That has to count for something.
10. Inoichi. Don’t judge him by his daughter. Shinranshin is a pretty nasty justu.

As for...

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Old 2007-05-11, 12:40   Link #27
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6. Shizune. Tsunade without the super strength.
But she does have the super strength...
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Old 2007-05-11, 12:47   Link #28
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Gai may be stronger than kakashi, but weaker than kurenai because him mainly as a taijutsu user may be prone to genjutsu more than the others. And kakashi having the sharingan allows him to counter kurenai's genjutsu. Asume is sort of in the middle of each 3 of them. Its like paper rock scissors, so i'll have to go with shikamaru's father. God knows what tactics he'll come up with seeing how shikamaru thought 200 steps ahead during a match, he'll probably finish thinking ahead BEFORE his opponent even started.
Its NEVER been stated that Gai is weak in genjutsu, or more susceptible towards it.
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Old 2007-05-11, 12:50   Link #29
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Uhm. He only rescued his team from a trap Kakashi couldn't even get out of.
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Old 2007-05-11, 12:53   Link #30
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Its NEVER been stated that Gai is weak in genjutsu, or more susceptible towards it.
That's why the words MAY BE are there for
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Old 2007-05-11, 13:13   Link #31
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What ever happened to that one Jounin who ref'ed the chuunin exam matches? The dude with the toothpick. I thought he could be more useful.
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Old 2007-05-11, 13:17   Link #32
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What ever happened to that one Jounin who ref'ed the chuunin exam matches? The dude with the toothpick. I thought he could be more useful.
Genma got beaten by the sound four plus he's not even a Jounin, he's a lonely Chunin.
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Old 2007-05-11, 13:53   Link #33
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Genma got beaten by the sound four plus he's not even a Jounin, he's a lonely Chunin.
No, he's a Jounin. I know he got beaten by the sound 4, but he didn't die.
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Old 2007-05-11, 14:12   Link #34
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No, he's a Jounin. I know he got beaten by the sound 4, but he didn't die.
Oh yeah you're right, he's an Examiner.
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Old 2007-05-11, 14:50   Link #35
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1. Kakashi - We are talking about the strongest Jounin in Konoha, in terms of Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, and Genjutsu, Kakashi will win hands down and with Sharingan it makes him even more deadlier.

2. Gai - He is mainly a Taijutsu user, i have yet too see him perfrom any Ninjutsu or Genjutsu (i could be wrong, unless you count summoning as ninjutsu), his skill can put him on the same lvl as kakashi, i guess thats why he considers kakashi as an rival
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Old 2007-05-11, 19:54   Link #36
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Genma got beaten by the sound four plus he's not even a Jounin, he's a lonely Chunin.
Genma along with raito were fighting four ninja with cs2. I'd say given the circumstances he did about as well as anyone else would have, maybe even a little better.
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Old 2007-05-11, 23:06   Link #37
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Kakashi maybe ^_^
Because he got the Talents ^_^
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Old 2007-05-12, 07:58   Link #38
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Genma along with raito were fighting four ninja with cs2. I'd say given the circumstances he did about as well as anyone else would have, maybe even a little better.
Yeah the fight wasn't showed blah blah...i'm not saying he's weak or anything, i like the guy i was disappointed with his age thoughhe seems younger, but he's not close to being the strongest Jounin.
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Old 2007-05-12, 08:54   Link #39
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I always thought the top three were Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma in that order. Asuma’s databook stats are more well rounded than Gai’s, but I see him just a tick below the other two.

1. Kakashi
2. Gai
3. Asuma

Then I go with some of the clan heads.

4. Hiashi. Strongest guy in Konoha’s second strongest clan.
5. Shikaku. Based on recent events. This guy is badly underrated and might even be on par with Kakashi and Gai.
6. Shizune. Tsunade without the super strength.
7. Chouza. Just imagine a stronger, more intelligent, and less clumsy Chouji.
8. Kurenai. A late bloomer. She was only appointed to jounin right before we pick up the series.
9. Shibi. The Aburame are one of the four royal clans of Konoha. That has to count for something.
10. Inoichi. Don’t judge him by his daughter. Shinranshin is a pretty nasty justu.

As for...

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That's right but Gai has said several times that he is stronger then Kakashi.
Besides...i doubt that there are many who can win against Gai when he starts to open gates (i am sure he can open all 8)

The Hyuuga Clan is the strongest clan of Konoha.
There is no clan stronger then the Hyuuga clan...

I have no idea why you guys think that Shikaku is that badass actually...we have seen pretty much nothing about him except that he defeated Shikamaru with shougi. Brains arent everything...just like power.

Anyway i think these clan leaders are strong without a doubt but...Konoha has alot of powerfull jounins. Anyway the lists below are in order (which is probably correct)

Spoiler for Konoha's Top jounins (without spoilers):


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Spoiler for (probably) the clan leaders (without spoilers):
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Old 2007-05-12, 09:24   Link #40
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