2006-10-29, 04:07 | Link #21 |
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well...all said and done, we all know that isshin isn't some low level shinigami that wonder around human world. He got to be at least a captain level or even higher. I think all we can do is just sit nicely and wait until kubo reveal the whole connection within isshin and the rest of the character.
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2006-10-29, 12:54 | Link #24 | ||
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While I don't belive Isshin is Kaien there are a few small things that make me think he might be Kuukaku and Kaien's elder brother or possably their father. The Shiba clan seems to have lost their standing with in only the last generation or 2 at the most as Byakuya still seems to treat Ganju with resepect do a noble after finding out he was a Shiba. Most people belive Urahara was exiled from SS for makeing the untraceable Giaga perhaps he made it for Isshin. |
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2006-10-29, 15:20 | Link #26 |
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Urahara being thrown out ...why we dont know we can presume IMHO very little to do with Gigai and more to do with Hogyoku . Hogyoku theory has more weightage then Gigai being the reason for Bansihment
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2006-10-29, 16:02 | Link #27 | ||
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2006-10-29, 21:39 | Link #28 | ||
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"However... in the past... he created a gigai completely undetectable and for this, he was exiled from Soul Society." So rather than trusting wiki, it's more like how much we can trust what Aizen said based on the information he was able to dig up. After all, it could have been taken down in the history books that Urahara was exiled for the gigai as a cover-up for the fact that he was exiled for creating the Hougyoku. So...salt all around! Quote:
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2006-10-30, 06:10 | Link #29 |
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Or, he could just be a human, like Ichigo, with shinigami powers. Maybe you're right: he could have been using a gigai all along and was indeed from Soul Society. However, unless there is any evidence to support this up to this point, it is safe to assume that Kurosaki Isshin is a human from Earth who may have had similar interactions with soul society/hollows as Ichigo has.
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2006-10-30, 16:53 | Link #31 | |
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I would second Dark here and throw a Question at you all , not contradicting but a simple question .
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2006-10-30, 18:27 | Link #32 |
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In that account SS sucks. + There's no info on who actually set that (Rukia's execution controlled by Aizen & not the big-important-ass-people-room EXAMPLE) maybe at that time it was really extremely "inconvenient" for somebody on the top there for an untracable, power-striping gigai to exist. or maybe they thew urahara out because he put laxitives (for scientific research of course) in all his is experimental soul-candy |
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2006-10-31, 00:03 | Link #35 | |
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If he's related, I'd say his absence could be a huge part of why the Shiba household was disgraced. |
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2006-10-31, 00:08 | Link #36 |
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And my theory is that he is related to the royal family which has been out of contact for centuries. That's the great thing about not having any actual information. You can come up with any theories you like without worrying about being contradicted.
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2006-10-31, 00:34 | Link #37 |
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I would like to combine NSW theory with a new theory put forward by Usagi . Well if Isshin has taken Kurosaki name from Masaki. That makes more sense for Isshin to go unheard of or even Ichigo . Isshin is from Royal Family but hiding with an alias Kurosaki
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2006-10-31, 04:20 | Link #38 | |
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I actually like the theory of Isshin being the King, but it sound sooooo unreal, cause then Ichi would be a prince, I dunno why but it just sounds ridiculous to me. I still say he should have been the horse
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2006-10-31, 06:33 | Link #39 | |
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This is my theroy to try to explaine eveything. Around 100 years ago Isshin finds out that someone is after the Hogyoku, but before he can find out who and act on the information he is framed for something that is big enuff to disgrace his clan. He turns to his buddy Urahara and and escapes useing the untraceable Gigai. Urahara then has to escape himself and goes with Yoruichi, placeing them selves on a kill on sight list if they ever return to SS. There are a lot of odd things going on in SS. Out of 13 captians only maybe 5 (old man, Shunsui, Ukitake, Unohana (maybe), Aizen(maybe)) have held the possition for more then 100 years. Its as if someone was weaking SS. |
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2006-10-31, 07:16 | Link #40 |
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I think the theory about an untraceable gigai being the reason for Urahara's banishment is somewhat lacking. I think it was in CH69 when the members of the research community was gathered around Rukia's captured gigai that gave us a clue. I remember distinctly that one of the researchers exclaimed that the captured gigai was not made by anyone that's currently in Soul Society because the mere posession of that kind of skill is enough to be banished.
In that scene, they were just starting to examine the gigai and were astounded by the craftsmanship. However, there was no 'signature'. It was upon closer inspection that they found it's uniqueness. I don't remember any reference to an internal examination so they were probably still doing an examination of the gigai's external. So, what is this 'forbidden skill'? I think it has to do with creating an anatomically correct gigai with a fully-functioning reproductive system. This would explain how Isshin (we are assuming, of course, that he was from Soul Society) could impregnate his (supposedly) human wife. For all we know, Masaki could also have been from the Soul Society and could have been using the same type of gigai as Isshin. |
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