Utawarerumono Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[monster]

I was surprised this anime got its own series discussion subforum now. It's a nice surprise, but then I'm even more surprised that the grandma died, I thought she was going to be there for the kids until the end. Not what I was expecting, but it's still a fun show overall.

[Sorrow-K]

What I really liked about this episode is that we're starting to see glimpses of a really strong, yet realistically human character in Hakuoro. I thought the way Tusukuru fell was a bit trite, but I have to admit I was moved by

Spoiler:

her death (though not quite moved to tears),

even if they did linger on it a tad too long and overdid it a bit.

The villagers taking down the fortress was cool, but the action sequences themselves weren't very impressive. I'll forgive it by saying this series is probably more story-intensive than action-intensive but I can't say the way the fights are animated are a high point.

[zalas]

Originally Posted by Kensuke

So this is how rebellions start, I wonder how far things go...

Spoiler:

As Hakuoro said, it is fight or die from now on. Good episode even tohught it is hard to believe that just peasants beat trained soldiers.

Never underestimate the power of morale/fanaticism/anger.

[masakenji]

how did trained soldiers lost?

1. Oboro at the start charged in by himself, which is possible in all aspects. he single handedly demoralised the soldiers, but was captured.

2. Even though not in detailed, i say the soldiers got caught by surprise.

3. We all know our main character is a great strategist and leader.

4. After having the face off against the soldiers, Oboro appeared. The soldiers were pincered and since these soldiers previously saw Oboro's skills, they got demoralised.

5. They did say the soldiers outnumbered the rebels, but they never said how much. Also, two generals that supposed to help left and its a high probability they took some troops with them.


Remember, Liu Bang started out as a repel against the Qin. From a peasant he became the ruler of the Han Dynasty.

[felix]

I rated it as Very Good... since this was a action packed ep not really much to comment on... nice to see Hakuoro is the leader now... too bad the granny had to die

As for why the soldiers got defeated part...

Since it's stated that most of the rebels suffered in wars... its no surprise they would be more skilled at this compared to the soldiers... not to mention the revenge factor...

Well seeing a anime with some bloodshed is really nice...

[Lost]

Spoiler for emo factor of episode4:

Speaking of which, I wonder if any of the village fighters died. It seems that it was a 1:0 ratio for guard casualties:village casualties.

Originally Posted by Sorrow-K

I thought the way Tusukuru fell was a bit trite, but I have to admit I was moved by her death (though not quite moved to tears), even if they did linger on it a tad too long and overdid it a bit.

I felt very sad for Aruruu, coz even if she's young, she understood what she did and will have to live with that fact for the rest of her life. But oh shes so young!! Tho, yeah, it didnt move me to tears. But it was close.

[Vexx]

I guess we'll call it "long enough" since the fansub released.... but you guys need to some effort into spoiler tagging major plot points. If you're smart enough to post, you're smart enough to know how to tag spoilers. I always try to wait at least a week after release before I stop tagging my spoilers.

There are still a couple of thousand people downloading this ep, eh?

[Shiroth]

This is a episode 04 talk, i don't think spoiler tags would be needed for talk about episode 04 - now if people started to talk about past that, then yes i agree.

[Lost]

We should put a big SPOILER warning at the title of each thread like this; like they did in the MO subforum. Nonetheless, I apologise.. Fixed

[Vexx]

I'm kind of undecided on series with full subforums like this. Angelsama is relatively correct in that this is ep4 and therefore one should expect ep4 spoilers but I still take the personal tack that *major* spoilers (like character death) should be tagged for at least a week after release. Otherwise it is kind of like yelling who died in Serenity to the crowd outside the theater waiting for the next showing.

Its more of a problem with series that only have a single thread. I've said my preferences and will be quiet now

[Shiroth]

If you haven't seen the episode - then why would you go into a thread about that episode, and there for know you're going to be spoiled?

[Daniel E.]

Originally Posted by Angelsama

If you haven't seen the episode - then why would you go into a thread about that episode, and there for know you're going to be spoiled?

Totally agree !!!

I understand it when people try to be polite and use spoiler tags when the eps. in question is only available as a RAW; Even so, the moment someone comes into a specific thread or section whithout watching the latest episode, is the moment they are asking to get spoiled.

[bento-cube]

Methinks Vexx has a valid point, since he's looking out for those who don't want to be spoiled by major plot changes such as character deaths. I personally feel the same way, and will continue to put spoiler tags if I have any plot stuff to share.

With that said, of course, you guys have your own opinions, and I don't intend to force my own on you. (Just expressing mine.)

[felix]

... how many of the characters in the op have been introduced this ep...

I say that :

The little elf girls are the archers in the op... the one CatGirls made a sig from... Link Here
The big demon before the end is probably An-chan... since we have the flashback or whatever it is after he kills the fatass-bos ...
The villagers have already been introduced
I think boss-ass son is an important villain since we see him in the op as well... maybe that's why he escaped... then again granny appears in the op... maybe she gets revived... yah right
General’s captain ... he's a captain right
WHN sister has already been introduced...

... anyone else this ep...

[Daniel E.]

Originally Posted by BlackCatXIII

The little elf girls are the archers in the op... the one CatGirls made a sig from.

Are those two actually girls??

Somehow, I get the feeling that at least one of them is a boy.

EDIT:

Just watched the eps. again and those two certainly sound and look like boys.

[Vexx]

I'll probably take flack for this but I thought Oboro was a girl for a few seconds when I saw his character design with that little summer halter blousey thing he was wearing

edit: I thought at least one was a girl based on this pic:
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?im...024x7680na.jpg
however, now I'm not sure thats even the same character because the hair designs are different (though she's an archer too if the clothing means much).
Perhaps someone who's played the game can enlighten.

[Erroll]

At first I thought they were girls but looking at it again, I decided they were boys. I'm going with boys until someone comes up with definite proof.

[Daniel E.]

Originally Posted by Vexx

One is a girl for sure and I think both are but I'll have to browse a bit to be sure.

Eh!? now I am starting to have doubts again

I always wondered why one of them always appeared to be blushing in a lot of the pics I have seen.

EDIT:

Ooops sorry about taking down the pics. I am not sure about hotlinking images, even if they are extremely small and are hosted in a place such as imageshack.

[zalas]

Originally Posted by Erroll

At first I thought they were girls but looking at it again, I decided they were boys. I'm going with boys until someone comes up with definite proof.

Well, hehe

Spoiler for their gender:

Hakuoro in the game thought they were girls, too, until this one time when Oboro explained that they were boys. There's definitely some shounen-ai hints in the game, as they are totally thrilled to carry a tired Oboro off after a battle. Later on, Hakuoro asks them if they are boys, and they said "well, normally we are a bit shy to show you proof, but since it's you, Hakuoro, we wouldn't mind." XD

Originally Posted by Vexx

edit: I thought at least one was a girl based on this pic:

That's Karura. She's the one swinging the huge sword in the opening.

Originally Posted by Daniel E.

I always wondered why one of them always appeared to be blushing in a lot of the pics I have seen.

Haha, I am glad they did that, or I would have had a hard time in the game differentiating the two based on their mugshots.

[Vexx]

And the gods of bishie win again...... eek. Okay... I guess I need to keep an eye out for that young lady.... I hadn't even noticed her because she only gets a few frames before the interesting redhaired trenchcoated swordswoman is given her sequence.