High School DxD Light Novel - Volume 20

[Archilla]

Don't even get me started on Issei finally getting laid Gary. It's been brought up (and quite seriously) so many times I'll be furious if it never happens.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by Gary29

-Ise realizing that he already has a harem/already has reached that goal (which could also cause him to re-evaluate his peerage plans once again)

His goal is to have sex with multiple women. Still far from being reached.

On the topic of him getting laid, if Ishibumi writes an epilogue showing Ise with kids, I'm happy about it.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

His goal is to have sex with multiple women. Still far from being reached.

On the topic of him getting laid, if Ishibumi writes an epilogue showing Ise with kids, I'm happy about it.

That'd be sweet, but I'd enjoy seeing it as a simple mention that it happened the previous night. Obviously it changes the dynamics of a lot of things, but it's been put in our face so balatantly so many times that it needs to happen.

Hell, the best scene in Volume 12 is Sairaorg's speech, and the crux of that is that Issei wouldn't die before having sex with Rias.

Let it happen, Editor-sama!

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by GDK1

That'd be sweet, but I'd enjoy seeing it as a simple mention that it happened the previous night. Obviously it changes the dynamics of a lot of things, but it's been put in our face so balatantly so many times that it needs to happen.

Hell, the best scene in Volume 12 is Sairaorg's speech, and the crux of that is that Issei wouldn't die before having sex with Rias.

Let it happen, Editor-sama!

What I meant is: If it happens now, good, but it's really not a big deal to me if it doesn't.

Maybe after his break Ishibumi decided to ignore the editor for once, who knows.

[B214]

Originally Posted by GDK1

It just feels like the stakes have been raised past that already. They're not going to get better experience than the battlefield from now on. It's not like Diehauser is stronger than Riz.

I'm saying Diehauser and his entire team. I know Rias and the others have take on powerful enemies and all but a strong team doesn't necessarily equate to an efficient team but an efficient team can equate into a strong team. Sona is the best example, their enemies up to date has never really function as a group, not even the Hero Faction worked as a team.

Now what if they face an opponent team that is overall stronger than Sona and has a better teamwork? How would they fight if the enemy has healer among them, or someone that can enhance strength, maybe they can even understand what their teammate is trying to do without saying it out? Or they have a more efficient combination attack etc? Rias and the other never faced those before, pitting them against this would help them a lot especially to Ise who is aiming to go independent.

Anyway this is just my opinion, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a good one but just saying it out.

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

What I meant is: If it happens now, good, but it's really not a big deal to me if it doesn't.

Maybe after his break Ishibumi decided to ignore the editor for once, who knows.

But if the editor doesn't approve it, it won't get published.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by B214

I'm saying Diehauser and his entire team. I know Rias and the others have take on powerful enemies and all but a strong team doesn't necessarily equate to an efficient team but an efficient team can equate into a strong team. Sona is the best example, their enemies up to date has never really function as a group, not even the Hero Faction worked as a team.

Now what if they face an opponent team that is overall stronger than Sona and has a better teamwork? How would they fight if the enemy has healer among them, or someone that can enhance strength, maybe they can even understand what their teammate is trying to do without saying it out? Or they have a more efficient combination attack etc? Rias and the other never faced those before, pitting them against this would help them a lot especially to Ise who is aiming to go independent.

Anyway this is just my opinion, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a good one but just saying it out.

Don't get me wrong man, I'm not like upset you mentioned it. I just think the payoff/time spent on it ratio is way too low. A two-Life ass kicking is not something I feel like needs to be in a volume that'll hopefully have lots of development when the only development it'll offer is "Whoa dude there's people stronger than us."

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by B214

I'm saying Diehauser and his entire team. I know Rias and the others have take on powerful enemies and all but a strong team doesn't necessarily equate to an efficient team but an efficient team can equate into a strong team. Sona is the best example, their enemies up to date has never really function as a group, not even the Hero Faction worked as a team.

Now what if they face an opponent team that is overall stronger than Sona and has a better teamwork? How would they fight if the enemy has healer among them, or someone that can enhance strength, maybe they can even understand what their teammate is trying to do without saying it out? Or they have a more efficient combination attack etc? Rias and the other never faced those before, pitting them against this would help them a lot especially to Ise who is aiming to go independent.

Anyway this is just my opinion, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a good one but just saying it out.



But if the editor doesn't approve it, it won't get published.

If Diehauser team is that good Rias wouldn't even be able to think of something, they'd just be steamrolled like ants by a steamroller.

If the editor's role is the same as in a manga magazine, they can disagree and make it harder to get published, but depending on his contract it could be possible.

[B214]

Originally Posted by GDK1

Don't get me wrong man, I'm not like upset you mentioned it. I just think the payoff/time spent on it ratio is way too low. A two-Life ass kicking is not something I feel like needs to be in a volume that'll hopefully have lots of development when the only development it'll offer is "Whoa dude there's people stronger than us."

I'm hoping that it offers the knowledge on how they can further improve their teamwork. Issei and the others are undoubtedly strong individually after all, but i believe they still have things they haven't covered as a team. Well lets just wait and see.

@Chichi, if Ishibumi could pull through then the Volume 5 issue wouldn't have occurred.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by B214

@Chichi, if Ishibumi could pull through then the Volume 5 issue wouldn't have occurred.

To be fair, that was before DxD was as popular and had a sucessful anime.

To quote Daniel Tosh; "The power in our household has shifted dramatically."

[B214]

Originally Posted by GDK1

To be fair, that was before DxD was as popular and had a sucessful anime.

To quote Daniel Tosh; "The power in our household has shifted dramatically."

Name one LN that has the getting laid thing happening then.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by B214

Name one LN that has the getting laid thing happening then.

Can't help you there, this is my first LN. All I was saying is Ishibumi should be in a better position to fight for stuff he wants now, since DxD has become more sucessful.

My mom is a writer. The more sucessful you become, the more influence you can wield with your editor. For instance; at first JK Rowling got edited far more heavily. By her last books, she could probably print whatever she wanted.

[B214]

Unfortunately not in Japan. The writers are bind by the editors. If the editors say no, then the publishers will say no too.

[Seafoam]

Originally Posted by B214

Name one LN that has the getting laid thing happening then.

Name one LN that has the MC powering up via poking breasts.

If it's going to happen in a series, DxD will probably want to be one of the first.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by B214

Unfortunately not in Japan. The writers are bind by the editors. If the editors say no, then the publishers will say no too.

Really? There's no concept of increased ability to negotiate one's position, in a way similar to that of contract negotiations, as someone's value increases? So like the guy who writes SAO has the same exact influence as when he wrote his first volume?

I'm not doubting you, it just doesn't make any sense to me. That's like a basic principle of demand.

[Royalknightftw]

Just like Chichi i would be damn happy just to get the epilogue showing Issei with his kids.

@B214 Iirc, bakemonogatari did it, well only implying that "they have done it", but then again different editors and different publishers mean different rules even though in the same demography.

[B214]

That's the limit in LN, they can only imply that "it happen".

@GDK1, it's simple, Fujimi Shobo isn't depending solely on Ishibumi, they have other LNs to sell but Ishibumi has to depend on Fujimi Shoba for his LN to get published. Yes he can switch into another publisher, but there's no guarantee that the other publisher will be better than Fujimi Shobo.

@Obey Pyro, Seikon no Qwaser power-ups through breasts to albeit it's sucking.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by B214

That's the limit in LN, they can only imply that "it happen".

@GDK1, it's simple, Fujimi Shobo isn't depending solely on Ishibumi, they have other LNs to sell but Ishibumi has to depend on Fujimi Shoba for his LN to get published. Yes he can switch into another publisher, but there's no guarantee that the other publisher will be better than Fujimi Shobo.

@Obey Pyro, Seikon no Qwaser power-ups through breasts to albeit it's sucking.

Seems like the same relationship publishers and writers have everywhere, but whatever. It's my fault for dragging this off topic.


I wonder who the volume cover will be. Just Issei? Maybe in CCQ?

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by GDK1

Seems like the same relationship publishers and writers have everywhere, but whatever. It's my fault for dragging this off topic.


I wonder who the volume cover will be. Just Issei? Maybe in CCQ?

Like the Delta force badge except its shaped like a tit for team DxD.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Gary29

If we're talking about v20 wishlists, here's mine:

-Some sort of a fight between the Gremory group and Belial/his group. It doesn't have to be an official Rating Game (although it would be cool if Team DxD investigated the irregularities in the pro leagues undercover, perhaps with other members like Dulio), but I want to see Belial get beat up for what he did to Ravel, even if it's for an instant and they lose in the end. It could even incorporate what B was talking about, using this instance as motivation to improve on teamwork even more and beat them next time.
-Rias or Azazel bringing up the question of Ise's feelings for the other girls, leading to a confession of equal love for all of them.
-Some development with Ravel (maybe a kiss? dunno, everyone else seems to be getting one)

Wait isn't Ravel dead? I thought she died in volume 19? Or am I mistaken I have't read any of the volumes after 16.

[Chichiryuushintei]

SAO and Monogatari did it. We're not (at least I'm not) talking about explicit sex, just a "we did it last night" max.

And again, I don't really care that much.

@Somethindarker: Death isn't something really permanent for the main characters of DxD.