Log Horizon S2 - Episode 16 Discussion / Poll

[SeijiSensei]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Also is Isuzu's voice actress really that bad at singing or she's doing that on purpose?

We've heard her sing twice, and both times it has been pretty awful. Could they not find a seiyuu for Isuzu who can sing? If she can sing, why are her performances so bad? Just a poor casting choice, or something that will be explained later?

These two episodes have moved at a snail's pace, which is troubling because the end of the season isn't far away. It's nice to see the kids pack their clothes and drive their wagon and all, but I'm more concerned about Krusty and the politics of Akihabara. With all the various plot lines that have been opened over the past half-dozen episodes, spending all this time on the kids' expedition makes me wonder how they'll wrap everything up. Especially since I doubt there will be a third season.

Is Lenessia going to do anything more than drink tea with Akatsuki? I was hoping to see some real development in her character this season, but so far there hasn't been much at all.

[Nvis]

Roe 2 is funnier than Shiroe.

What if other adventurer alts started appearing........like the "original"-Swashbuckler Kanami.

[Netto Azure]

For some reason seeing how busty Roe2 is reminded me of how many female alt players do that.

[Benigmatica]

Originally Posted by Nvis

What if other adventurer alts started appearing........like the "original"-Swashbuckler Kanami.

But Kanami deleted her account before going abroad as far as I remember, unless Elder Tale unexpectedly "revive" her character as a Lander.

[Krono]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

We've heard her sing twice, and both times it has been pretty awful. Could they not find a seiyuu for Isuzu who can sing? If she can sing, why are her performances so bad? Just a poor casting choice, or something that will be explained later?

The casting decision for Isuzu was made before the first season. The director said he deliberately picked novice voice actors for the newbies, in an attempt to strengthen the "newcomers growing as a group" aspect of the scrub's story. His statement also helped tip some observant people off that something was up with Rudy, as Rudy's seiyuu is an industry veteran.

All that happened before volume 8 - the novel this arc is from - was even written. Meaning the plot points that would make whether or not Isuzu's seiyuu could sing relevant, simply didn't exist yet.

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

We've heard her sing twice, and both times it has been pretty awful. Could they not find a seiyuu for Isuzu who can sing? If she can sing, why are her performances so bad? Just a poor casting choice, or something that will be explained later?

Originally Posted by Krono

The casting decision for Isuzu was made before the first season. The director said he deliberately picked novice voice actors for the newbies, in an attempt to strengthen the "newcomers growing as a group" aspect of the scrub's story. His statement also helped tip some observant people off that something was up with Rudy, as Rudy's seiyuu is an industry veteran.

All that happened before volume 8 - the novel this arc is from - was even written. Meaning the plot points that would make whether or not Isuzu's seiyuu could sing relevant, simply didn't exist yet.

I think she was asked to sing like that on purpose, probably to highlight how Isuzu see herself: an amateur through and through.

In fact she also voices Kamiya Nao in Cinderella Girls and based on what I hear in this song, she definitely can sing alright =3

[dahak]

Originally Posted by Mubyoshi

Wait a second, where was it mentioned that that's actually Shiroe and not just another adventurer that happens to be wearing the same gear?

As far as I know, the anime has only implied that Roe2 is Shiro's Alt in the Op, where she stands back to back with Shiroe on either side of Shiro at his PC.

They do have different voice actors.

[Mubyoshi]

Originally Posted by dahak

As far as I know, the anime has only implied that Roe2 is Shiro's Alt in the Op, where she stands back to back with Shiroe on either side of Shiro at his PC.

They do have different voice actors.

Oh wow, I never noticed that, I always skip the op of all anime I watch after seeing them once.

[Vocah]

Originally Posted by Mubyoshi

Oh wow, I never noticed that, I always skip the op of all anime I watch after seeing them once.

Oh, I'm not the only one that does that!!

OP and ED are a waste of space, I wonder why not more groups use ordered chapters (was that the name?) to only have them take space one time instead of every episode.

[Yan3242]

Is roe2 actually controlled by shiroe itself?, didnt know that you can "change character" even after apocalypse.

If it really shiroe, i must say he really good at acting

[Nvis]

Originally Posted by Yan3242

Is roe2 actually controlled by shiroe itself?, didnt know that you can "change character" even after apocalypse.

If it really shiroe, i must say he really good at acting

If we're just hearing this now after 1.5 seasons, then the answer may be no.......

[Nicaea]

Somehow I'm not convinced that Shiroe keeping info regarding Krusty is that wise. At least get Isaac in on this.

[Mubyoshi]

So I was thinking, since bots apparently can gain sentience, I'm guessing unmanned alts can too; assuming they were also summoned into the world along with the mains.

[Yan3242]

^not sure about that since unmanned is completely different with "bot", unmanned is practically empty as in no soul/pilot, when the apocalypse happen i think all those character that you created but didnt use at that time will probbaly got deleted or end up as dead body.

unless shirou at that time happen to use "shirou" and roe2 either via bot or using 2 active account.... yeah i think roe2 is complete different person, maybe like william? she see shirou as her hero or something like that when he still with the tea party, they were famous at that time afterall.

[Jan-Poo]

I think it is a matter of whether the character was logged in at the time of the apocalypse. In Episode1 Shiroe browsed through his friend list and some names were listed as "off-line".

Such thing simply wouldn't be possible if all and any characters automatically got incarnated regardless of whether their user was logged in with them or not.
Moreover there's bound to be several people with more than one character or even more than one account, and I think someone should have noticed by now if they became independently alive.

That makes me wonder, though, of what would happen in case of a player dual-boxing or even multi-boxing.

[Nicaea]

Originally Posted by Yan3242

^not sure about that since unmanned is completely different with "bot", unmanned is practically empty as in no soul/pilot, when the apocalypse happen i think all those character that you created but didnt use at that time will probbaly got deleted or end up as dead body.

unless shirou at that time happen to use "shirou" and roe2 either via bot or using 2 active account.... yeah i think roe2 is complete different person, maybe like william? she see shirou as her hero or something like that when he still with the tea party, they were famous at that time afterall.

Spoiler for About Roe2:

I don't know much about her but I think that she became sentient because unlike other alts she was on Mare Tranquilitatis, the test server. The server now saves as a place where people go when they die and leave their memories behind. It wouldn't be weird for Roe 2 to have gained sentience after Shiroe died or after she absorbed as much memories as possible.

[FRS]

Another fun episode, not much happened in the first half but it was fun to watch the youngs antics.

the 2nd half gave us some new insight on the situation in Akiba and we got to see Roe2

[dahak]

Originally Posted by Yan3242

Is roe2 actually controlled by shiroe itself?

She first appeared in episode 9 (climbing out of the snow) just before the mid episode break and immediately between Shiroe Dying and Shiro waking up on the Moon.

So the evidence is against that, since he was busy.

[FlareKnight]

So it's been months and they have effectively gotten no where in figuring out where Krusty is or how to get him back. At some point they are going to have to reveal what happened here. Trying to play off Krusty's absence like this can only last for so long. DDD at this rate is going to fall apart.

Not a bad episode. It gave nice focus on the kids, but also the overall situation. There are problems continually brewing here. Especially that radical suggestion that Akiba "should go on a diet." Is that guy seriously suggesting they kick people out of the town and leave them to fend for themselves?

Not much to say on Roe2 right now since she was barely in this episode. Certainly makes the journey a bit safer with a level 90 summoner hanging around .

[Yan3242]

A level 90 summoner who can only fully "functional" at night