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View Poll Results: Psycho-Pass 2 - Episode 7 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 6 | 25.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 6 | 25.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 7 | 29.17% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 16.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 4.17% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2014-11-21, 03:36 | Link #21 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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The system doesn't care about Kamui. Period. They want Akane. I wouldn't even be surprised if they were secretly enabling Kamui at this point with the endgame in mind that Akane would stop him. Also, something tells me that Grandma Tsunemori isn't who she appears to be. It's too uncanny that during the dialogue sequence in which the prof. reasons that organ transplants are being used to fool the system, we see a retirement home completely trashed, save for Akane's grandma. Or maybe the incident was another test to raise her CC...? |
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2014-11-21, 05:10 | Link #22 | ||
Kana Hanazawa ♥
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 37
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- They want Akane to kill Kamui. They didn't specifically tell her to do the job, they said it would have been ok to let Togane shoot as well. Anybody is fine as long as they get rid of Kamui. I think they're very much afraid of him and what he can reveal about the plane crash (there's definitely going to be a major reveal about that). He represents a major threat and they want him gone ASAP. - They recruited Togane presumably to get rid of Akane. She's a security risk since she knows their true identity, so they want her gone. The other interpretation being that that they want to test her to see if she's a good candidate to be added to Sibyl, but I don't subscribe to it yet. - If they were playing Akane, I think there would have been a hint. Like Kasei cracking a smile after Akane left. Instead, she looked apathetic and perhaps even displeased. Quote:
Kamui's accomplices don't seem to matter anyway. They're just pawns.
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2014-11-21, 06:17 | Link #23 | |
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The narrative have been hinting for a while now that Kamui simply has a body composition that is fundamentally different from a human such that the field isn't produced. That's my theory anyway.
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2014-11-21, 07:51 | Link #24 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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That scene in ep 5 also ended with Kasei stating that this is all needed for their evolution and the screen zoomed onto Akane. That could mean Sibyl was already aware of Kamui's identity since ep 5, but preferred to keep their hands off the case to monitor Akane's psyche with the aim of congregating her into the system if she is asymptomatic. However back to ep 7 this week after the meeting with Akane, the expressionless look on Kasei's face I wonder... is Sibyl starting to worry that Kamui might be more trouble than he is worth? Anyway, pretty excited about what the big secrets that doctor Masuzaki is going to spill out next week, this better be good haha. Gotta love how Saiga has taken a more prominent role in the force and all the intellectual stuff are being centralized through him. |
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2014-11-21, 08:25 | Link #25 |
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You forget that Sibyl is not supposed to be some overlord ruling the city. The system is supposed to make impartial judgements by scanning people, and the police (human beings) are supposed to choose action they will take.
It's not supposed to make it's own decisions. If Sibyl starts shutting dominators down or enabling them to shoot people with the clear psychopass, it will reveal its true nature. Sybil will at least publically pretend that its still the faithful servant its supposed to be. |
2014-11-21, 08:54 | Link #26 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Age: 38
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In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the various organs inside him were from each individual that he's created a holo of from the plane crash. |
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2014-11-21, 10:03 | Link #27 |
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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Speculation: I believe that Sybil has known about the conspiracy for some time, and had secretly tried to fight it. However Sybil could not win or is at a standstill with wack a mole conundrum. Therefore it devised that the only way to stamp out the opposition is to leave an opening and allow the conspirators to gather and come into the open where they can be crushed in one strike.
This might be completely off-base since I have no idea how the Togane Foundation or the plane crash factors into the equation. |
2014-11-21, 11:20 | Link #28 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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(And really, as long as they haven't pushed these two characters to their limit, the story wouldn't progress much. These two will be stuck in this prolonged stalemate.) I hope I am not opening something beaten to death (Just glimpsing the episodes now and then). One thing too on how they think. While there are some flaws (and admittedly they all fuck up everyone in the process) they don't target the heart of the problem; only some holes on Sybil's rating system, not the whole establishment as a whole. And now that the police (not familiar with the term) has narrowed some lead, this kinda lessen the threat that Sybil perceives on itself. So I get somewhat they are not threatened that much as to expend exceptions. (EDIT: As for the series so far, the animation is not as good as the previous season. I felt they used a lot of shortcuts in animation and they feel unnatural(?). But then again, I find some scenes in S1 the same too. Well, hey they are willing to use blood, so I guess there's some trade-off). |
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2014-11-21, 12:43 | Link #29 |
Kana Hanazawa ♥
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 37
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Can anybody tell us if Togane's file says anything interesting?
All I know is that his crime coefficient was 769 (holy shit!) when he was 10 years old. For comparison, the highest CC seen in S1 was Rikako's at 472, and she was a complete nutjob of a serial killer. Togane must be the king of psychopaths. And apparently, he drove 5 inspectors to death in total.
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2014-11-21, 13:32 | Link #30 | |
Nympholept
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Wonderland.
Age: 31
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After he's done talking with her about how he used to like cooking and eating chicken before Sibyl's Hyper Oats Food Revolution, what's left of the poor thing would be at the very least marked as a permanent Lethal eliminator target by the system. That's just horrible. Why would you want the birth of another dirty latent criminal in a society as organized and clean as Sibyl's? Are you an Anarchist?
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2014-11-21, 14:32 | Link #31 | |
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On the other hand, if it's as simple as transplanting organs, he could easily make his lackeys undetectable by cymatic scan as well, but he didn't. His operation after the plane crash involves some kind of drug patent. That might be the key to solving tthis mystery. ------------------------------------------------------ A lot of interesting theories on Sibyl's weird actions have been proposed. I wish we were given more clues to Sibyl's true intentions. The words by Kasei of interest as mentioned above. So, I'm in charge of this case. But no matter how much you blame me, I can't take responsibility for it. After all, we can't change the past. Let's just make use of that which has been brought to life, in order that we may evolve. Besides, aren't you curious, as to how 'that' will affect her. That which has been brought to life might be referring to Kamui, 'that' will affect her might be referring to Togane.
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2014-11-21, 17:19 | Link #34 | |
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That does raise another interesting question. How does Sibyl determine the threat level of a pure machine? I have no idea in that respect.
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2014-11-21, 18:08 | Link #36 | |||
Nympholept
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Wonderland.
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Togane.
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But removing shouldn't be a problem as long as the brain is intact. After all, Sibyl System itself is a complex of hundred brains (as far as I know, it doesn't include kidneys and intestines). Cyborg guy had nothing but his brain left so reading him should be a piece of cake for Sibyl. Quote:
Sibyl is brains, so they can think at least that much. And unlike with humans, it's much easier to tell how far gone a machine is. A robot that harms humans is of no use to Sibyl, so it's disposable. They don't even need to put a number on the threat level : if it's trash, then it's trash, and all kinds of trash are the same since they have no value. You don't paralyze or cure trash, you destroy them, all of them (recycling is a different story). Quote:
It's for consistency purpose, consistency purpose, not because we enjoy cute girls breaking. We need to know how exactly Togane proceeds when he transforms people into Lethal Eliminator targets. And he needs to succeed for the sake of consistency. Jokes aside, I think it was already too late for her the instant she entered his room. Seeing Togane's room already did some sort of things to her mind and she's seriously starting to get obsessed with him. Of course, her being in possession of confidential informations hidden by the higher ups means talking to Kasei isn't an option. Talking to Akane is also out of question since she can't stand her guts and it's getting worse with Togane's indirect influence on her. She only has the other enforcers left, but her pride is in the way in there too (on top of being scared of Doc-kun), not to mention that most of them favour Akane. At the very least, she may try talking to Yayoi but she had no opportunity to be alone with her yet. I actually hope nothing bad happens to her though.
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2014-11-21, 20:47 | Link #37 | |
Sensei, aishite imasu
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Togane certainly is turning out to be a piece of work. I'm suspecting the only reason a guy like him is still alive is probably because of his family connections. Since a psycho-pass that high seems like normally it'd just get you turned to slush.
I'm also go and chime in on the possibility of Sybil pondering if Akane is asymptomatic. This has frankly been something I've been wondering since last season, and they keep going back to Akane's Psycho-pass...with Togane Stalker seeming particularly interested in it. I don't think we'd get two seasons talking about this if it wasn't gonna lead to something. Quote:
I think it's probably something more complicated than that.
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2014-11-21, 21:28 | Link #38 |
RUN, YOU FOOLS!
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost
Age: 44
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Hearing about Togane's precedents, I won't be surprised if he is some kind of troll who just want to see a fellow Inspector's psycho-pass getting clouded so he can shoot him/her.
As for Kamui and the organs, please no frankenstein thing a la "well he got transplanted organs of kids who died in the plane crash!". Edit: Togane is a much more interesting character than Kamui imo. |
2014-11-21, 21:36 | Link #39 | |
さっく♥ゆうきゃん♥ほそやん
Join Date: Nov 2009
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The other plausible alternative is that Togane really is cooperating with Kamui, which is what all the signs seem to be pointing towards...though I think it'd be more fascinating if the above explanation was the right one, since it tells us so much more about how Sibyl operates.
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