Fate/stay night UBW TV - Anime Spoilers, Speculation & Source Comparison

[Shyni]

Comparisons of the Archer/Lancer fight I found on /a/

DEEN 2006

Ufotable 2014

The last second of the DEEN one makes me laugh.

[Amarantine]

So where does everyone think they'll split up the two cours?

Going through the days in the Visual Novel, I imagine the first cour might end after Caster gains control of Saber, with Shirou left Servant-less and seemingly powerless, and Rin and Archer leaving him behind to go deal with Caster.

Of course, Fate/Zero already showed us they probably don't care much for ending the first cour on a particularly suitable/climatic point, so it's really more about how they'll pace the story as a whole.

[Nayrael]

I won't even bother trying to guess. I think it all depends on how much original material they add into the story (and if they add something, most of it will be before Saber is stolen).

[mirakura]

Originally Posted by Shyni

Comparisons of the Archer/Lancer fight I found on /a/

DEEN 2006

Ufotable 2014

The last second of the DEEN one makes me laugh.

The difference. I actually think I can draw better than the DEENIFIGHT~

[Fellen]

Originally Posted by Shyni

Comparisons of the Archer/Lancer fight I found on /a/

DEEN 2006

Ufotable 2014

The last second of the DEEN one makes me laugh.

The DEEN one looks like a fan-made cartoon.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by Shyni

Comparisons of the Archer/Lancer fight I found on /a/

DEEN 2006

Ufotable 2014

The last second of the DEEN one makes me laugh.

The DEEN one looks like an old and bad cartoon.

[phishmeister68]

Fight scene not that good. They also make Archer stronger here than the VN.

Though I knew they would show the combatants flying through the air, and couldn't draw a carefully choreograph fight scene.

It's like that Raiden breakdancing fight against Vamp in MGS4, it was the stupident thing I ever saw, and make no mistake, I'm referring to the MGS4 fight.

[Nayrael]

Originally Posted by phishmeister68

Fight scene not that good. They also make Archer stronger here than the VN.

He is? In the VN he felt like a guy trolling Lancer, here he was just a guy who barely defended from him.

Though I knew they would show the combatants flying through the air, and couldn't draw a carefully choreograph fight scene.

It is not couldn't.
It is didn't want to :P

[phishmeister68]

He jumped then swings down upon Lancer, Lancer just blocked, then Archer goes arrrghh, then Lancer goes flying into the school building.

The trajectory of Lancer getting blown off doesn't even make sense. The angle doesn't make sense. Physics.

It's just like all these hollywood movies making action scenes realistic. The new James Bond doesn't have as much fancy gadgets as Pierce Brosnan. Daniel Craig got a radio from Q, lol. And the new movie, the Equalizer, that movie was so good. This fight scene looks like Star Wars, all the colours just go flying, pew pew pew. I don't like Star Wars

[Nayrael]

Originally Posted by phishmeister68

The trajectory of Lancer getting blown off doesn't even make sense. The angle doesn't make sense. Physics.

Didn't he just run away too fast? :P

It's just like all these hollywood movies making action scenes realistic. The new James Bond doesn't have as much fancy gadgets as Pierce Brosnan. Daniel Craig got a radio from Q, lol. And the new movie, the Equalizer, that movie was so good. This fight scene looks like Star Wars, all the colours just go flying, pew pew pew. I don't like Star Wars

I repeat:

It is not couldn't.
It is didn't want to :P

To explain: it was NEVER their intention to make the fight realistic. Some will not like it, some will, but it doesn't make them "trying to be realistic but failing".

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by phishmeister68

He jumped then swings down upon Lancer, Lancer just blocked, then Archer goes arrrghh, then Lancer goes flying into the school building.

The trajectory of Lancer getting blown off doesn't even make sense. The angle doesn't make sense. Physics.

It's just like all these hollywood movies making action scenes realistic. The new James Bond doesn't have as much fancy gadgets as Pierce Brosnan. Daniel Craig got a radio from Q, lol. And the new movie, the Equalizer, that movie was so good. This fight scene looks like Star Wars, all the colours just go flying, pew pew pew. I don't like Star Wars

I clearly remember something about "a fight between Servants defies the laws of physics" mentioned at some point in the VN. This demonstrated that aspect well, imo.

Also Lancer wasn't even scratched after being thrown back and he was not serious (looking down on Archer as a "mere Bowman") and also there was KK's command seal order to "merely test out the other participants", which limited his stats as well.

[phishmeister68]

I said that I knew they would never try to be realistic, all the animes fight scenes is just pew pew pew flying colours.

Though I havent watch any anime for years now. There's some exception like One Piece maybe? I didnt watch One Piece, but I think their fight scenes is more choreographed. I hate Ichigo after Soul Society arc.

And I don't like how you try to speak for them when you say they could have drawn a choreographed fight scene but didn't. If I knew they could do it but choose not to for real, I'll be real piss, y'know.

Ah ya, doesn't matter they could defy physics. They fought normal in the VN, so that's my complaint.

I complaine, though I knew they would never try to be realistic.

[Mad Pierrot]

I'm a noob to the series. When does UBW start to differ a lot from the previous anime?

[phishmeister68]

Episode 0 is just like the prologue in the VN. All three routes have the same prologue, which is from Rin's perspective.

It'll differ starting at episode 1.

[MCAL]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

I'm a noob to the series. When does UBW start to differ a lot from the previous anime?

There will be a few differences, but the UBW doesn't truly start to differ from the Fate route until the middle of the Illya/Berserker fight. So probably around episode 3 (Or 4 if you count yesterday's episode.)

[Mad Pierrot]

Thanks. I'll be looking forward to it

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

I'm a noob to the series. When does UBW start to differ a lot from the previous anime?

The point where you have to ultimately decide between the "Fate" route and the "Unlimited Blade Works" route is exactly the moment where this Episode 0 ended.

I'll put the actual action that decides it in spoiler tags, since it kind of spoils a small detail from next episode, so read it under own discretion:

Spoiler:

In the "Fate" route Saber attacks and heavily wounds Archer, which makes him unable to fight for a few days, however the story diverges into the "Unlimited Blade Works" route, if Saber's Master decides to use a command seal to stop Saber from wounding Archer, which means that Archer is OK and able to fight, which causes a chain reaction of events that severly change the storyline, which also unexplainably causes Saber's Master to suddenly NOT sound like a sexist prick and generally being more accepting of Saber as his servant for some reason, unlike the Fate route.

EDIT: Damn, I got the feeling he will never see this post...

[HtwoN]

Originally Posted by Shyni

Comparisons of the Archer/Lancer fight I found on /a/

DEEN 2006

Ufotable 2014

The last second of the DEEN one makes me laugh.

What is this blasphemy from DEEN?

note: Lancer talking when closing his teeth, perfect.

Originally Posted by GreyZone

The point where you have to ultimately decide between the "Fate" route and the "Unlimited Blade Works" route is exactly the moment where this Episode 0 ended.

I'll put the actual action that decides it in spoiler tags, since it kind of spoils a small detail from next episode, so read it under own discretion:

Spoiler:

In the "Fate" route Saber attacks and heavily wounds Archer, which makes him unable to fight for a few days, however the story diverges into the "Unlimited Blade Works" route, if Saber's Master decides to use a command seal to stop Saber from wounding Archer, which means that Archer is OK and able to fight, which causes a chain reaction of events that severly change the storyline, which also unexplainably causes Saber's Master to suddenly NOT sound like a sexist prick and generally being more accepting of Saber as his servant for some reason, unlike the Fate route.

Do yo remember how can

Spoiler:

Saber wound Archer that much?

I don't really remember this detail.

[Amarantine]

Originally Posted by HtwoN

Do yo remember how can

Spoiler:

Saber wound Archer that much?

I don't really remember this detail.

Archer recognized Saber from his previous life so he hesitated to fight back against her, which allowed Saber to nearly kill him in one blow.

ufotable actually captured that pretty well in episode 0, even if in this version Shirou will stop Saber from actually going through with her charge.

[phishmeister68]

It was speculated between Shirou and Saber. Shirou mentions how Archer look shocked when he sees Saber jumping over the wall. One momentary lapse and one swing from Saber, Archer goes down. Shirou wonders if Archer knew Saber. Saber is offended by the notion that Archer went easy on her. That's Fate route. Archer defended himself in UBW of course.