Aldnoah.Zero - Character Discussion - Slaine Troyard

[Kazu-kun]

Personally, I don't think Slaine will try to find any ringleader. He doesn't have the means for that. He's just Terran scum, and no one is going to reveal anything to him.

I think the moment Slaine gets a machine from Cruhteo, he's going to use it to fight the Martian knights and look for Asseylum. Anything else would make little sense to me, though I guess with the level of writing we're dealing here, anything is possible.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Personally, I don't think Slaine will try to find any ringleader. He doesn't have the means for that. He's just Terran scum, and no one is going to reveal anything to him.

Because they underestimate him, they might reveal things to him. So far the Martians have been portrayed as sort of idiotic. From getting outsmarted by teenagers to spouting revelations to someone who was clearly devoted to the person they wanted dead and not reacting when he stole their gun.

The only one who seemed smart was the one who cut the Earth forces communications.

[Key Board]

I'm actually surprised he hasn't been locked up when the war started just because he was Terran. Consider how high Martian emotions are going on right now

Also I'm not sure if it was you Thess, who originally proposed the theory or not, but maybe he really is the late Emperor's nephew.
If so they can resent him, but they can't outright get rid of him.

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Personally, I don't think Slaine will try to find any ringleader. He doesn't have the means for that. He's just Terran scum, and no one is going to reveal anything to him.

I think the moment Slaine gets a machine from Cruhteo, he's going to use it to fight the Martian knights and look for Asseylum. Anything else would make little sense to me, though I guess with the level of writing we're dealing here, anything is possible.

Well contacting the princess is clearly a top priority. After that, I'm not sure.
Let's say he made contact and after that he's going to be her inside man on the martian side for intel
I'm sure that doing that means going on more missions that will probably call for more spilt Terran blood
There's a limit on how much he can fake that, and you can tell that his moral compass is not up for it

But as I alluded earlier.. maybe he could go down a certain Fate Zero charater's path and end up being a Byronic hero

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Thess

Because they underestimate him, they might reveal things to him.

I just don't see what sort of situation would allow him to get information. Besides, he just asked Cruhteo to let him fight, so the story isn't gong in that direction anyway.

He's going to fight (provided Cruhteo really gives him a machine and sends him out there), and he's got only one enemy, the Martian knights.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Thess

Because they underestimate him, they might reveal things to him. So far the Martians have been portrayed as sort of idiotic. From getting outsmarted by teenagers to spouting revelations to someone who was clearly devoted to the person they wanted dead and not reacting when he stole their gun.

Agreed. Slaine might pull off something surprising largely because the Martian knights will probably underestimate Slaine a lot.

I get the impression that one of the themes of the show might be "smug racism makes you really dumb".

Unfortunately, I think they might actually be overdoing it a bit.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by Thess

Because they underestimate him, they might reveal things to him. So far the Martians have been portrayed as sort of idiotic. From getting outsmarted by teenagers to spouting revelations to someone who was clearly devoted to the person they wanted dead and not reacting when he stole their gun.

The only one who seemed smart was the one who cut the Earth forces communications.

Well, remember all the knights we've seen encounter and be bested by Inaho are all lower-tier knights. One's who obviously don't have what it takes to command. Neither Saazbaum nor Cruhteo seem idiotic. Cruhteo's a little oblivious, but that simply from being uninformed. I really want to see how Inaho and company can handle one of the 37.

As for Slaine, I can't really see what his plan is though. Trillram told him stuff because he was in a rage and because he's an idiot. I can't see getting more information on the scheme to be as easy. However, if he joins the Earth Forces, he won't be able to find out about who is behind this, that way either.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

However, if he joins the Earth Forces, he won't be able to find out about who is behind this, that way either.

If he kills them all, there won't be any need to find out who is behind it.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by jeroz

This is Slaine that we are talking about here, one whose obsession in his own quest will eventually lead to his own downfall. Ep4 already laid out a misunderstanding chasm that will no doubt play a big role later on within the ranks.

He's not meek nor passive like the ones you listed. In fact, he's the exact opposite.

The only misunderstanding I saw in ep4 is when it appeared like Slaine was going to tell Cruheto about the assassination until Cruheto said some words that made it seem like he was involved in attempt. Is that what you are referring to?

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Well, remember all the knights we've seen encounter and be bested by Inaho are all lower-tier knights. One's who obviously don't have what it takes to command. Neither Saazbaum nor Cruhteo seem idiotic. Cruhteo's a little oblivious, but that simply from being uninformed. I really want to see how Inaho and company can handle one of the 37.

Didn't they fight one of the 37 in Episode 4?

I'll give that guy some credit - He's clearly smarter and more tactically-minded than Trillram is. But still, he became flustered pretty easily.

I'm fine with the Martian Knights brutally underestimating Inaho et al for now, but that's probably going to get really old if they don't start going "Hey, guys, maybe we should start taking these terrans a bit more seriously" no later than Episode 8 or so.

As for Slaine, I can't really see what his plan is though.

I think he just wants to be out there, where the action is. That's the only way he can relocate Asseylum. Finding out more on the conspiracy against her is also a goal for Slaine, but I think his main goals are finding Asseylum and protecting her.

[pampz21]

well anyway; he does give a different feeling than Inaho. Inaho gets alot of screen time but Slaine gets me to watch this series more. how do I say this he's like a ticking time bomb ready to explode anytime!

I think Slaine has a potential to be a Lelouch persona;
To kill for Loyalty and to destroy oneself in the process; the path of "Ashura"

Spoiler for I get the feeling this would happen:

ep 4 was probably about his decision; which is why its the "Point of no return"~

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Didn't they fight one of the 37 in Episode 4?

I'll give that guy some credit - He's clearly smarter and more tactically-minded than Trillram is. But still, he became flustered pretty easily.

I'm fine with the Martian Knights brutally underestimating Inaho et al for now, but that's probably going to get really old if they don't start going "Hey, guys, maybe we should start taking these terrans a bit more seriously" no later than Episode 8 or so.

Actually no, Vlad, according to the bio, is a knight but he has no peerage title and he doesn't have his own castle or army. He actually lives with Cruhteo, just like Trillram did. Essentially, he's the same as Trillram, or maybe even a little worse off, since Trillram was at least a baron.

I think that they definitely have a uniform color system going. Only those who wear maroon are the 37. All those in blue, are the lesser knights that happen to live with the bigger knights I guess?

I think he just wants to be out there, where the action is. That's the only way he can relocate Asseylum. Finding out more on the conspiracy against her is also a goal for Slaine, but I think his main goals are finding Asseylum and protecting her.

That actually seems like a good motivation and plan. I know Inaho's doing good, and they've been luck up until now, but I still think that they're are going to need better firepower later on.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by pampz21

ep 4 was probably about his decision; which is why its the "Point of no return"~

That can mean a lot of things. For example, up until now he has been a loyal dog to Mars, but if he goes out there to look for the princess and fight the knights, everything will change for him. It'd be a point of no return, but it doesn't necessarily mean it'd be a tragic path.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Key Board

Also I'm not sure if it was you Thess, who originally proposed the theory or not, but maybe he really is the late Emperor's nephew.
If so they can resent him, but they can't outright get rid of him.

That was only my speculation in the scenario they are related, as opposed to sibling. I don't think he's related to the Vers family.

Originally Posted by Key Board

Well contacting the princess is clearly a top priority. After that, I'm not sure.
Let's say he made contact and after that he's going to be her inside man on the martian side for intel

I think he wants intel. He's intuitive, so he's most fit to figure things out in conspiracy.

Originally Posted by Key Board

But as I alluded earlier.. maybe he could go down a certain Fate Zero charater's path and end up being a Byronic hero

Inaho is already the obvious Gen Byronic hero. All these expressionless protagonists from Gen end up lonely, dead or lonely and dead. But again, it was Aoki Eri who called the shots for his characterization too and Gen's uninvolved from now on, iirc.

[jeroz]

Originally Posted by the one above all

The only misunderstanding I saw in ep4 is when it appeared like Slaine was going to tell Cruheto about the assassination until Cruheto said some words that made it seem like he was involved in attempt. Is that what you are referring to?

Yes. Something is going to happen with this misunderstanding unless they clear it up somewhere.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by jeroz

Yes. Something is going to happen with this misunderstanding unless they clear it up somewhere.

He needs to stick close to him to discern his true intentions and can't if he keeps pushing him away because he's 'Terran scum'.

Slaine's in the Ed, courtesy of an attentive twitter watcher.



Can someone capture Inaho's mirror image (surrounded by birds?) and post it in his thread, please?

[Kazu-kun]

There two more frames:

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by jeroz

Yes. Something is going to happen with this misunderstanding unless they clear it up somewhere.

Actually, Slaine discounted that Cruhteo was in on it just as quickly as he brought it up. However, he also realized that Cruhteo, like all the other knights, was exploiting the situation involving the Princess "death" for his own gain. That was why he didn't say anything. Right now he seems to be the only one around who is purely just concerned about the princess' safety.

Also, it probably went through his mind that it's probably smarter and safer to not tell Cruhteo. He's already getting beaten just for "insinuating" that he was on the same level as all the other knights by wanting to avenge her. What do you think would happen if he went and fully accused other knights of trying to kill her? And what if his intuition was wrong and Cruhteo was in on it? Then he and the princess are totally screwed. Also, he was surrounded by a bunch of people, any one of them could be a spy. There are a lot of reasons he kept his mouth shut.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

There two more frames:

Yes, it's the Princess transformation/stripping of that awful stuffy dress in the one she wore around him. I realized it when I rewatched.

[Maryruss]

Interesting captures. Princess behind Slaine.
Somebody behind Inaho?

[Hollownerox]

Originally Posted by Maryruss

Interesting captures. Princess behind Slaine.
Somebody behind Inaho?

As far as I can tell from just repeatedly pausing the ending, the only thing showing up behind Inaho were birds. There looked like there could be more, but the thing goes by so quickly, and the colors make it hard to tell if something is a figure, or just a blob.