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Firefly00 · 2013-05-17, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Vexx

(and yeah, I tend to find the capture-the-flag/lasertag/arena type pvp obnoxious ... as much as Shadowbane annoyed me in other ways, the idea I could get ganked picking flowers was kind of exciting)

On this note I'd point out that Age of Wushu/Age of Wulin does add in a (to my knowledge) very rare sort of PvP: specifically, it's possible to queue up to play bodyguard to an instance boss.

As for Wildstar itself, I've been keeping an eye on it, and another out for a beta invitation.

In the interest of helping people form their own conclusions, I present for consideration this pair of TotalBiscuit videos:

Part 1

Jazzrat · 2013-05-23, 21:29

In case anyone isn't following their youtube channel or mmo news site, here's the newest video from Carbine studio introducing their Path system.

mmmm that female Mechari... i hope she's ingame.

Kyero Fox · 2013-05-24, 00:20

Yea, I'm going to end up having 3 alts. XD My main might be explorer or Soldier, main ult will be the builder or w.e.

Vexx · 2013-05-31, 14:10

Business model will be a form of hybrid model (however, far too non-specific to draw any conclusions)

http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/r...rid-Model.html

synaesthetic · 2013-05-31, 15:09

Ah, that leaves A Realm Reborn as the only true subscription-based option left for those who don't care for Warcraft...

Oh well. I'm rapidly starting to understand that MMOs are just not my thing anymore.

Vexx · 2013-05-31, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Ah, that leaves A Realm Reborn as the only true subscription-based option left for those who don't care for Warcraft...

Oh well. I'm rapidly starting to understand that MMOs are just not my thing anymore.

Same. I'll probably diddle with Wildstar just for the novelty but unless I trip across a wonderous guild or the housing and roleplay are splendiferous ... meh.

Kyero Fox · 2013-05-31, 17:48

You give up too easily. :P

Vexx · 2013-05-31, 17:50

(unless that was directed at Syn

) Haven't given up, just not going in starry eyed. If they emulate the eq2 model - I actually like that hybrid model a lot. Frankly, I'd still be playing eq2 if they had upgraded the graphics engine (and I hadn't explored the entire world several times over by now).

Jazzrat · 2013-05-31, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Ah, that leaves A Realm Reborn as the only true subscription-based option left for those who don't care for Warcraft...

Oh well. I'm rapidly starting to understand that MMOs are just not my thing anymore.

There is still Eve Online, despite the PLEX system, it is still at it's core a subscription game.

Kyero Fox · 2013-05-31, 18:55

Housing Dungeons ... I'm sold. XD Going Settler first.

synaesthetic · 2013-05-31, 19:06

EVE just doesn't excite me very much and honestly I like the idea of indirect free-to-play using items that extend your subscription by a month, it's a very effective anti-RMT method.

Vexx · 2013-06-21, 13:42

Interesting uplink from the designers on game economics. I don't necessarily agree with their decisions but it does look like they've thought about the complexities of the economic flowchart for a decent game.

http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/ne...oney_sinks.php

synaesthetic · 2013-06-21, 14:40

I'm more concerned about the real-world economics of their "hybrid payment model."

They need to talk about that and soon. There are lots and lots of people who won't touch Wildstar with a ten-foot pole if it's not a subscription-based game (that'd be me), and there's others who won't play a game that isn't straight-up F2P. Payment model is a huge part of deciding what MMO you want to spend time on.

As for me, Yoshi-P already stood up on record to defend the subscription model. I'll be happy with A Realm Reborn at least.

Vexx · 2013-06-21, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

I'm more concerned about the real-world economics of their "hybrid payment model."

They need to talk about that and soon. There are lots and lots of people who won't touch Wildstar with a ten-foot pole if it's not a subscription-based game (that'd be me), and there's others who won't play a game that isn't straight-up F2P. Payment model is a huge part of deciding what MMO you want to spend time on.

As for me, Yoshi-P already stood up on record to defend the subscription model. I'll be happy with A Realm Reborn at least.

The kind of hybrid model I'm most fond of is a "starter F2P" and then at some point you top out and are offered a subscription, like an extended demo. I'm also okay with a F2P that can be taken all the way but with restrictions like number of characters, inv. slots, etc. The cash shop should be purely cosmetic or at most have exp bonus potions or other blahblah.

I'm likely to play the game for short while no matter what just to explore but will I stay for seven plus years like I did EQ/EQ2? Yeah, the f2p vs. hybrid vs. sub will have a lot to do with that.

Vexx · 2013-07-10, 14:32

Okay, it looks like the housing component in Wildstar really did take some notes from EQ2 (repurposeable and placeable house items). That looks promising to an obsessive house builder like me.

http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/ne...eta_houses.php

Firefly00 · 2013-07-12, 17:23

New DevSpeak video detected in the wild:

Vexx · 2013-07-19, 16:35

The previously secret races of both factions, heh. Maybe I'll have a Dominion character after all.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/6t0mgu0_i3c

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Kyero Fox · 2013-07-19, 17:46

To play a rodent? really? XD kidding.. I may roll one of these franks. But I'll be maining a male Aurin.

DJ_Applejack · 2013-07-20, 18:42

The colour scheme in the areas shown at the star of the video really remind me of WoW. Thats good though if they're going to copy WoW, I hope its just as fun or even more-so.

Really looking forward to playing this and doing warplots and player housing ^_^

Anyone know if they have a closed beta going yet and how to get invited?

Vexx · 2013-07-21, 01:42

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Originally Posted by DJ_Applejack

The colour scheme in the areas shown at the star of the video really remind me of WoW. Thats good though if they're going to copy WoW, I hope its just as fun or even more-so.

Really looking forward to playing this and doing warplots and player housing ^_^

Anyone know if they have a closed beta going yet and how to get invited?

It does take a color-rich cartoonish approach to world and characters like WoW, though that isn't particularly something WoW innovated. They are similar but that's kind of like saying MS Windows stole from Apple when they both actually have the same father and mother (Xwindows and Xerox)

You can sign up for beta but so far they haven't called me at least (closed at present I think).
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/beta/

2013-05-23, 21:29	Link #22
Jazzrat Bearly Legal Join Date: Jun 2004	In case anyone isn't following their youtube channel or mmo news site, here's the newest video from Carbine studio introducing their Path system. <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/lmCyPXv5APY">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> mmmm that female Mechari... i hope she's ingame. <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/yJkfhxLEhEU">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________

2013-05-24, 00:20	Link #23
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Yea, I'm going to end up having 3 alts. XD My main might be explorer or Soldier, main ult will be the builder or w.e. __________________

2013-05-31, 14:10	Link #24
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Business model will be a form of hybrid model (however, far too non-specific to draw any conclusions) http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/r...rid-Model.html __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2013-05-31, 15:09	Link #25
synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 40	Ah, that leaves A Realm Reborn as the only true subscription-based option left for those who don't care for Warcraft... Oh well. I'm rapidly starting to understand that MMOs are just not my thing anymore. __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2013-05-31, 17:48	Link #27
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	You give up too easily. :P __________________

2013-05-31, 17:50	Link #28
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	(unless that was directed at Syn ) Haven't given up, just not going in starry eyed. If they emulate the eq2 model - I actually like that hybrid model a lot. Frankly, I'd still be playing eq2 if they had upgraded the graphics engine (and I hadn't explored the entire world several times over by now). __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2013-05-31, 18:55	Link #30
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Housing Dungeons ... I'm sold. XD Going Settler first. __________________

2013-05-31, 19:06	Link #31
synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 40	EVE just doesn't excite me very much and honestly I like the idea of indirect free-to-play using items that extend your subscription by a month, it's a very effective anti-RMT method. __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2013-06-21, 13:42	Link #32
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Interesting uplink from the designers on game economics. I don't necessarily agree with their decisions but it does look like they've thought about the complexities of the economic flowchart for a decent game. http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/ne...oney_sinks.php __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2013-06-21, 14:40	Link #33
synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 40	I'm more concerned about the real-world economics of their "hybrid payment model." They need to talk about that and soon. There are lots and lots of people who won't touch Wildstar with a ten-foot pole if it's not a subscription-based game (that'd be me), and there's others who won't play a game that isn't straight-up F2P. Payment model is a huge part of deciding what MMO you want to spend time on. As for me, Yoshi-P already stood up on record to defend the subscription model. I'll be happy with A Realm Reborn at least. __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2013-07-10, 14:32	Link #35
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Okay, it looks like the housing component in Wildstar really did take some notes from EQ2 (repurposeable and placeable house items). That looks promising to an obsessive house builder like me. http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/ne...eta_houses.php __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2013-07-12, 17:23	Link #36
Firefly00 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	"They put the sights on top for a reason." New DevSpeak video detected in the wild: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/kjQLsE02OPg">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________ White Knight of the Order of Mihoshi Enthusiasts "Destroyed overnight, or the next one's free." Arc Nova

2013-07-19, 16:35	Link #37
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	The previously secret races of both factions, heh. Maybe I'll have a Dominion character after all. YouTube https://youtu.be/6t0mgu0_i3c Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2013-07-19, 17:46	Link #38
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	To play a rodent? really? XD kidding.. I may roll one of these franks. But I'll be maining a male Aurin. __________________

2013-07-20, 18:42	Link #39
DJ_Applejack Space Pony Join Date: Jul 2013	The colour scheme in the areas shown at the star of the video really remind me of WoW. Thats good though if they're going to copy WoW, I hope its just as fun or even more-so. Really looking forward to playing this and doing warplots and player housing ^_^ Anyone know if they have a closed beta going yet and how to get invited?