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Pretty much left the ball in developer's court to play in this issue.
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2013-04-06, 02:44 | Link #27 |
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I think whatever MS ends up doing with the console, after the initial furor, things will turn out fine.
The vast majority of "always on" rage has been caused by insufficient hardware needs being met by those who implemented the "always on" policy. While Xbox Live has its outages, it's generally been a pretty damn stable service, and I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to questioning their ability to back up their decision with the hardware to support it. I mean, I'm sure there are people who can't connect to the internet, but I have to assume they are a very small minority of the video game console owning player base, despite all the rampant over-exaggerated faux outrage over the issue. I don't agree with the way that MS dude belittled those midwestern towns (I think he'd be surprised at how west/east coast some of those midwestern towns can actually be), and he certainly sounds like an incredible idiot, but putting that part of his response aside, the general spirit of what he was trying to get across is largely true. But, as a primarily PC gamer who has essentially been connected to the internet since 1990, perhaps I'm totally biased at the concept that an internet connection is hardly the pain people are making it out to be. Yes, it means if you're in a seahut in Afghanistan that doesn't happen to have some Sprint/ATT/etc satellites providing you with an internet connection while on deployment, you may not be able to play video games, but life goes on.
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2013-04-06, 02:52 | Link #28 |
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After Diablo 3 and Sim City? Majority of gamers are no longer going to trust Always Online anymore.
There will always be fanboys, but most people would be on the fence of whether to get the PS4 or Xbox, and I'm telling you PS4 atm is ahead by miles in terms of gamer support, especially after this mess- joke or not.
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I think Microsoft will be fine, while people bitch about XBLA and Kinect, they remain the dominant player in the current generation. While their business practice might be dubious but you can trust Microsoft to know how to remain relevant and profitable in their business. Quote:
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2013-04-06, 04:14 | Link #30 | |
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Unless you're saying that Microsoft has invincible servers and nothing would go wrong with them?
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2013-04-06, 04:50 | Link #31 |
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Launch day failure didn't stop D3 from selling like hotcakes. Nor did it ever stop any always online games like most MMOs either. While online services have outage, there hasn't been any cataclysmic failure that driven people off services like XBLA, PSN or Steam to date.
Technically, it's unlikely that Microsoft/Sony is going to be forcing every developer to host part of the code within their server like what Diablo 3 did so it's probably going to be a verification check very much like steam. How draconian this verification is though is up to anyone's guess if it ever was to be implemented. Long story short, they are going to be more like Steam and not D3 or Simcity if they are doing online requirement.
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2013-04-06, 05:04 | Link #32 | |
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Also, with MMO that came with the territory- but when people can't play single player games because of server problems? That's when they start to lose it.
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2013-04-06, 05:04 | Link #33 | |
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"Always online" means online with no purpose, online universally, and online even when the game doesn't do anything with it. This is why EA had to script an elaborate lie about how Simcity had good reasons to be online. Also note that Diablo III is going to be offline for consoles. I wonder why? Online REQUIREMENT is a negative. And now that we see PS4 isn't doing it, it is up to Microsoft to screw this up and shoot themselves in the face.
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2013-04-07, 05:40 | Link #35 | |
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But still, as you have said, going always online when PS4 isn't will be like shooting yourself in the foot in Microsoft's case.
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2013-04-07, 06:38 | Link #36 |
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Think that this isn't 100% true either. Like nintendo, sony are leaving this option up to the devs and publisher. So unlike MS, which has this always online feature mandatory, apparently, the other consoles could feature always on games/checks based on individual titles. An example would be EA games requiring that you have to sign on to your origin account before the game even starts.
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And to restrict the potential of a console when you have a serious rival system to compete with, is not wise.
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2013-04-07, 07:12 | Link #38 | |
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2013-04-07, 07:22 | Link #39 |
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I would like to think that majority of gamers at this point are tired of getting dicked around.
Some franchise are a lost cause and belongs to the casual public, like CoD, Fifa etc. But a lot of games are still supported mostly by 'hardcore' gamers that are in the know.
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2013-04-07, 08:29 | Link #40 | |
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Please, do tell me what PS4 can't do that Always online Durango can?
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