Mahouka [LN/M] - Character Speculation/Theories: Erika

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by kusabireika

What will happen if there won't be maid erika

Pampz will probably book a flight ticket from LA to Japan the second that episode ends...

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by kusabireika

What will happen if there won't be maid erika

I'll send them back to the stone age!

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Erika and Leo certainly aren't A. But Mayumi and Mari are S IMO. Erika and Leo are way weaker than them. Tatsuya, Katsuto and Miyuki are the only ones at 1st high who are a match for these 2 .



It wasn't cheating. It was magic and it's part of her fighting style, something like this would be useless against Tatsuya thought. Erika is a good CQC fighter given her level as a swordsman, the problem is that her magic isn't that good. She would be a Bloom otherwise.

Lol...Erika is much stronger in combat than Mayumi and Mari combined; If Mayumi takes a range any magician would fall for a sniper remember Tatsuya was hit by a sniper in the heart but survive using regrowth. To fight Erika you should either be trickier or faster than her. Which I doubt no one in the series can match her speed right now(only a handfull). Id say Erika is already one of the top tiered cqc magician in the world; Yamatsunami is much stronger than Lightning Tetsuzan in damage and Erika speed can go par with Phantom Blade. Just like Tatsuya said Erika style is to fight that the eyes cant see. Reason why Erika doesnt want to fight with Tatsuya because it wouldnt work on Tatsuya.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Erika was trolling in the fight.



Lol...Erika is much stronger in combat than Mayumi and Mari combined; If Mayumi takes a range any magician would fall for a sniper remember Tatsuya was hit by a sniper in the heart but survive using regrowth. To fight Erika you should either be trickier or faster than her. Which I doubt no one in the series can match her speed right now(only a handfull). Id say Erika is already one of the top tiered cqc magician in the world; Yamatsunami is much stronger than Lightning Tetsuzan in damage and Erika speed can go par with Phantom Blade. Just like Tatsuya said Erika style is to fight that the eyes cant see. Reason why Erika doesnt want to fight with Tatsuya because it wouldnt work on Tatsuya.

Btw why are we even discussing this on Tatsuya's thread?

Hum. Erika is strong, no doubt but her strength isn't comparable to these 2. Katsuto, Mayumi and Mari were the absolute top 3 at First High. They could stomp any student but the Shiba siblings, Erika is the 2nd best swordsman of the series so far but with magic involved, these 2 would beat her with ease. Erika's physical capabilities are high and even without magic she can reach magic-like speed like Tatsuya but Mari's physical capabilities are comparable given that she is able to stop Tatsuya's arm and that Mibu even compared Erika's fighting style to Mari, who was using only a sword. With her multiple weapons it would be overkill. Even if she is the 2nd best self acceleration caster in the series(Naotsugu is first)it isn't enough to beat her, she is not a Course 2 student for nothing. She is certainly better now but in vol 2 her activation speed was 840 ms, Mari is without a doubt the fastest caster, even not taking in account her air manipulation control, her Dojigiri is impossible to block, Lu also beat Erika easily during their brief confrontation.
Erika is strong and fought a lot but she would have stood no chance against Lina(truly one of the strongest in the world) had it been a real confrontation, Lina's casting is so fast that she was able to dodge her surprise attack at point blank.

Now Mayumi, I won't post the number of times her amazing talent has been commented but we already know that she is vastly stronger than everyone at First High excepted the 4 I mentioned. But with the little she shown we she has Multi-Scope making her impossible to surprise when used(vol 5), high psion count(vol 1), Dry Meteor, her MP is very high even by 10MC standard(vol 3), Counter Magic bullets(vol 3). Her activation is comparable to Miyuki whose's speed was 235 ms with a bad equipment in vol 2 given that they destroyed the tanks at the same time in Yokohama. Her subsonic attacks that she can spam are already fast enough to trouble any magicians, even Tatsuya had trouble to deal with only one of Lina's subsonic bullet. But in vol 7 she even spammed ice pellets at supersonic speed, beating several magicians in no time.

Originally Posted by Jirachier

Wait what, are you saying Mayumi and Mari are on the same level of fighting power as Tatsuya/Katsuto/Miyuki ?
That makes absolutely no sense, Katsuto is the heir of his clan, Tatsuya is one of the most powerful magicians in the entire world, how can you compare Mayumi or Mari to them ? Even the combination of both would lose to them. And how is Erika and Leo not A rank ? Especially Erika.(I'm not ranking them according to magic power but fighting prowess, just making sure i clarified that)

I gave enough explanations above but really, Japan has too much OP magicians. Lina rivals Miyuki and the only characters which are confirmed as world's strongest magicians are Tatsuya, Miyuki, Maya(Japanese) and Lina(Japanese ancestry but woking for USNA). Erika, Leo and Mikihiko have comparable levels and Leo lost in a fair fight against a vampire and survived only because he is a Burg Folge.

In Japan, Tatsuya is certainly stronger than Miyuki even if she a fight against her would be hard. You can disagree but for me Katsuto and Masaki are certainly stronger as well, meaning that they are among the world's strongest magicians. I think Mari is the weakest of the 3rd year trio but she is able to match Katsuto and Mayumi. Mayumi's feats aren't numerous but with her feats she rivals Miyuki when it comes to combat prowess. To be the heir doesn't mean that you are the strongest, Shippou is a good example. But he will no doubt be vastly stronger than the likes of Tomitsuka or Hanzo when he will reach his peak thanks to his natural gift for magic. Fumiya, who is the 2nd favorite stomped him.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Hum. Erika is strong, no doubt but her strength isn't comparable to these 2. Katsuto, Mayumi and Mari were the absolute top 3 at First High. They could stomp any student but the Shiba siblings, Erika is the 2nd best swordsman of the series so far but with magic involved, these 2 would beat her with ease. Erika's physical capabilities are high and even without magic she can reach magic-like speed like Tatsuya but Mari's physical capabilities are comparable given that she is able to stop Tatsuya's arm and that Mibu even compared Erika's fighting style to Mari, who was using only a sword. With her multiple weapons it would be overkill. Even if she is the 2nd best self acceleration caster in the series(Naotsugu is first)it isn't enough to beat her, she is not a Course 2 student for nothing. She is certainly better now but in vol 2 her activation speed was 840 ms, Mari is without a doubt the fastest caster, even not taking in account her air manipulation control, her Dojigiri is impossible to block, Lu also beat Erika easily during their brief confrontation.
Erika is strong and fought a lot but she would have stood no chance against Lina(truly one of the strongest in the world) had it been a real confrontation, Lina's casting is so fast that she was able to dodge her surprise attack at point blank.

Now Mayumi, I won't post the number of times her amazing talent has been commented but we already know that she is vastly stronger than everyone at First High excepted the 4 I mentioned. But with the little she shown we she has Multi-Scope making her impossible to surprise when used(vol 5), high psion count(vol 1), Dry Meteor, her MP is very high even by 10MC standard(vol 3), Counter Magic bullets(vol 3). Her activation is comparable to Miyuki whose's speed was 235 ms with a bad equipment in vol 2 given that they destroyed the tanks at the same time in Yokohama. Her subsonic attacks that she can spam are already fast enough to trouble any magicians, even Tatsuya had trouble to deal with only one of Lina's subsonic bullet. But in vol 7 she even spammed ice pellets at supersonic speed, beating several magicians in no time.

Mar's tri-sword are impossible to block but it isnt impossible to dodge; the reason shes a course 2 student is because she cant cast complex magic; thats why she just using one process accelaration magic. Erika lost to Lu because Erika was testing something. She lost/draws the fight with Lina because she lack magic to fight. Or rather she didnt use magic.

Mayumis multi scope isnt that OP even if you see something it doesnt mean you have the reaction to dodge an attack.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Mar's tri-sword are impossible to block but it isnt impossible to dodge; the reason shes a course 2 student is because she cant cast complex magic; thats why she just using one process accelaration magic. Erika lost to Lu because Erika was testing something. She lost/draws the fight with Lina because she lack magic to fight. Or rather she didnt use magic.

Mayumis multi scope isnt that OP even if you see something it doesnt mean you have the reaction to dodge an attack.

My bad, Dojigiri isn't unblockable but impossible to dodge, all blades have Pressure Slash. It's her trump card anyway, she doesn't need it to beat Erika. Erika is only better than her at self acceleration and swordsmanship, she has her outstanding instincts too.

Spoiler for QUOTE:

Mari wielded the thin string in her left hand like a weapon. Along the
direction of the swing, the string emitted the repulsion edge "Pressure
Slash". Also, there was more than one. The twin blades falling upon
the head also emitted "Pressure Slash" along the edges of the blades.
The thin string in Mari's hand had exceeded the speed of her twin
blades thanks to the application of Gravity-Type acceleration magic.
Even Tatsuya wouldn't be able to dodge all three attacks at the same time, and the "Devouring Tiger" Lu Gonghu was no exception.

Really, Lu wasn't a small fry, he was just fighting too many strong opponents .

Spoiler for Mayumi's Multi Scope:

“What you said just then… Mayumi seems to have not taken it too seriously.
Because Mayumi has the special skill ‘Multi Scope’, that girl can guard her
perimeter and nobody can take her by surprise, but since that ability is not a
passive activation perception ability, when she doesn’t feel the need for vigilance,
it’s like a toy trapped in its packaging.”

It's like a weaker version Elemental Sight on this aspect. In a fight, it will be impossible to surprise if you enter in her perimeter. Mayumi specializes at long range, and given that her activation speed is lesser than 235 ms and that she can spam easily subsonic or supersonic bullets... Even without CAD, as long as she uses her ice pellets her speed would be comparable since Hale Particles is a Non Systematic magic. Erika stands no chance.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

My bad, Dojigiri isn't unblockable but impossible to dodge, all blades have Pressure Slash. It's her trump card anyway, she doesn't need it to beat Erika. Erika is only better than her at self acceleration and swordsmanship, she has her outstanding instincts too.

Spoiler for QUOTE:

Mari wielded the thin string in her left hand like a weapon. Along the
direction of the swing, the string emitted the repulsion edge "Pressure
Slash". Also, there was more than one. The twin blades falling upon
the head also emitted "Pressure Slash" along the edges of the blades.
The thin string in Mari's hand had exceeded the speed of her twin
blades thanks to the application of Gravity-Type acceleration magic.
Even Tatsuya wouldn't be able to dodge all three attacks at the same time, and the "Devouring Tiger" Lu Gonghu was no exception.

Really, Lu wasn't a small fry, he was just fighting too many strong opponents .

Spoiler for Mayumi's Multi Scope:

“What you said just then… Mayumi seems to have not taken it too seriously.
Because Mayumi has the special skill ‘Multi Scope’, that girl can guard her
perimeter and nobody can take her by surprise, but since that ability is not a
passive activation perception ability, when she doesn’t feel the need for vigilance,
it’s like a toy trapped in its packaging.”

It's like a weaker version Elemental Sight on this aspect. In a fight, it will be impossible to surprise if you enter in her perimeter. Mayumi specializes at long range, and given that her activation speed is lesser than 235 ms and that she can spam easily subsonic or supersonic bullets... Even without CAD, as long as she uses her ice pellets her speed would be comparable since Hale Particles is a Non Systematic magic. Erika stands no chance.

Lol that is if Erika gives Mari a chance to use it; as it would end the moment Mari throws the blades. With Erika's superb sense she may not dodge all; but can still cut the distance for her to use Yamatsunami.(If you watch Reborn where Hibari and Ganma fights; the same think would happen if Mari and Erika fights.) Beside Dojigiri has versatility but doesnt have much power on it. That can penetrate Lu's armor. And you do know that Weight and Movement type magic is Erika's specialty;

Even if the author says its impossible to dodge; there are always a plot hole on it like Lina's Dancing Blade.

Lol you do know that Mayumi's casting speed is still slower than Erika's one process magics? For Multi-Scope just like I told you; do you think Mayumi have the reaction speed to follow Erika? Sniper fighting a swordsman in cqc would win the sniper even win? CQC is Erika's domain.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Lol that is if Erika gives Mari a chance to use it; as it would end the moment Mari throws the blades. With Erika's superb sense she may not dodge all; but can still cut the distance for her to use Yamatsunami.(If you watch Reborn where Hibari and Ganma fights; the same think would happen if Mari and Erika fights.) Beside Dojigiri has versatility but doesnt have much power on it. That can penetrate Lu's armor. And you do know that Weight and Movement type magic is Erika's specialty;^

Mari doesn't have to use Dojigiri to beat Erika. Besides, it is very powerful since they are all enhanced by Pressure Slash.Erika's specialty is self acceleration.

Even if the author says its impossible to dodge; there are always a plot hole on it like Lina's Dancing Blade.

Dancing Blade has never been said to be impossible to dodge. If Tatsuya and Lu can't do it I don't see who could.

Lol you do know that Mayumi's casting speed is still slower than Erika's one process magics?

Wut. Mayumi's casting speed is equal to Miyuki. Erika casts at 840 ms while these 2 cast at less than 235 ms. She has all the time to cripple her with super fast ice pellets, not to mention that she can make them fall like hail.

For Multi-Scope just like I told you; do you think Mayumi have the reaction speed to follow Erika? Sniper fighting a swordsman in cqc would win the sniper even win? CQC is Erika's domain.

Erika's reaction speed is better than Mayumi but it doesn't make her stronger. Mayumi is recognized as one of the strongest at 1st high by far while there is a speedster among Blooms like Tomitsuka. Morisaki's SS shown that most magicians are accustomed to high speed due to these kind of fights. Plus she is helped by Multi-Scope. I wasn't necessarily talking about CQC but even at close distance she would never have the time to finish her, the gap is way too big. You have to wonder how Erika could even approach her.

[Kokus]

erika vs mayumi is something that could end similar like tat's vs hatori (he is regardet as one of the best 5 at first high ) it is all a matter of how far apart are they how fast can the one take the other out and who forces the other one into deffence.
erika already forced lina one of the best mages in the world to suffer injuries. if mayumi uses something like the decelaration zone miyuki used and manages to build it up in time or does something like minami in voll 13 erika is as good as done for yes that is right. but that is under the assumption that mayumi can use something like that/that she is fast anough/got the time to activate it. we just don't know what might happen till it happans and i think it is unlikely that these 2 fight against each other.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by Kokus

erika vs mayumi is something that could end similar like tat's vs hatori (he is regardet as one of the best 5 at first high ) it is all a matter of how far apart are they how fast can the one take the other out and who forces the other one into deffence.
erika already forced lina one of the best mages in the world to suffer injuries. if mayumi uses something like the decelaration zone miyuki used and manages to build it up in time or does something like minami in voll 13 erika is as good as done for yes that is right. but that is under the assumption that mayumi can use something like that/that she is fast anough/got the time to activate it. we just don't know what might happen till it happans and i think it is unlikely that these 2 fight against each other.

Every magicians has his fighting style. Miyuki fights with AO and ice, Lina with attacks on one target and Plasma, Mayumi with fast and powerful bullets. Erika managed to hit her only because Lina was aware of her identity while Erika was ready to kill her, without her under armor she would have been in an even worse state.

Without taking in account that Mayumi is absolutely better than her at everything excepted self acceleration. Do you think Erika is able to dodge supersonic attacks from different angles? Her casting speed surpasses Erika . Mayumi didn't fight as lunch as the 3 other magicians cited but her feats are enough to put her far above Erika. And Hanzo could never beat Tatsuya.

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Every magicians has his fighting style. Miyuki fights with AO and ice, Lina with attacks on one target and Plasma, Mayumi with fast and powerful bullets. Erika managed to hit her only because Lina was aware of her identity while Erika was ready to kill her, without her under armor she would have been in an even worse state.

Without taking in account that Mayumi is absolutely better than her at everything excepted self acceleration. Do you think Erika is able to dodge supersonic attacks from different angles? Her casting speed surpasses Erika . Mayumi didn't fight as lunch as the 3 other magicians cited but her feats are enough to put her far above Erika. And Hanzo could never beat Tatsuya.

When someone put a theory that Erika can beat martial-art-enhanced Miyuki, you should expect they believe Erika can beat Mayumi, who is inferior to Miyuki.

But hey, what they believe doesn't change what you believe right?
Why bother with it?

[Kokus]

@ echizen
what exactly is your problem with my post ? it is completely hypothetical and i stated 3 diffrent possibilitys 1 in favor for erika and 2 in favor for mayumi ...
ps to use the supersonic attacks in a cqc is far to dangerus
if just one pelled gets deflected or majumi gets just 1 time pushed in the flightpath of one or what ever ... a mage would not use a spell if it could possibly harm himself unless in a life or dead situation.
one other thing mayumis absolute power ??? yes she is god but put her againt someone like tat's lina maya jumonji or even one on one against lu they would trash her ... if you want it or not till now we seen mayumi just a few times in battle and the one time she even screwed up ...
you most likely thing screwed up what ?? the helicopter scene... the fact that there where still living soldiers after 5 min of atk from her or that she didn't check with multiskope if reinforcements arrive. that is something i would call a really bad screwed up !!

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by bietchie11

When someone put a theory that Erika can beat martial-art-enhanced Miyuki, you should expect they believe Erika can beat Mayumi, who is inferior to Miyuki.

But hey, what they believe doesn't change what you believe right?
Why bother with it?

Lol exactly...
Why bother!
But still i have to defend her right?


A fight with Mari and Erika would be over in an instance. Did Echizen even think that Mari can react to Yamatsunami when Mibu who got trash the moment Erika went serious? And Mibu who is one of the people who represent the nation in her swordsmanship.

And why do you think Mari, Leo and Erika had to buy time to defeat Lu? Wouldnt it be better if she just used her spell right there and then? And remember that Lu was able to deflect her attack the first time? Sonic speed can be delfected.

Yes Multi scpe is nice anf handy but the argument here is that Mayumi isnt a cqc magician, high speed combat isnt her specialty. She might look strong to trashy mob characters but against someone who is pretty much well known; shes basically the bottom food chain.

Remember Erika is on top of the list in Chiba household; she surpassed the talent of Toshi and her Father in swordsmanship. And pretty much said to be stronger than Toshi. And we can say Toshi is pretty much legit in his own way.

Erika is one of the defining member of this series as Magic alone isnt everything.

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Lol exactly...
Why bother!
But still i have to defend her right?


A fight with Mari and Erika would be over in an instance. Did Echizen even think that Mari can react to Yamatsunami when Mibu who got trash the moment Erika went serious? And Mibu who is one of the people who represent the nation in her swordsmanship.

And why do you think Mari, Leo and Erika had to buy time to defeat Lu? Wouldnt it be better if she just used her spell right there and then? And remember that Lu was able to deflect her attack the first time? Sonic speed can be delfected.

Yes Multi scpe is nice anf handy but the argument here is that Mayumi isnt a cqc magician, high speed combat isnt her specialty. She might look strong to trashy mob characters but against someone who is pretty much well known; shes basically the bottom food chain.

Remember Erika is on top of the list in Chiba household; she surpassed the talent of Toshi and her Father in swordsmanship. And pretty much said to be stronger than Toshi. And we can say Toshi is pretty much legit in his own way.

Erika is one of the defining member of this series as Magic alone isnt everything.

Basicially Mayumi magic is like auto- aim pistol in "Titanfall"-great against AI, bad against pro-players?

BTW, Erika is Mari's teacher.

[bietchie11]

When it's about Erika, it is rude to talk about "swordsmanship" without mentioning fan-service.

So, what is your favorite fan-service Ms.Fan-service offered?
What kind of fan-service would you want her to do in the future?

[TaintedDream]

Originally Posted by bietchie11

When it's about Erika, it is rude to talk about "swordsmanship" without mentioning fan-service.

So, what is your favorite fan-service Ms.Fan-service offered?
What kind of fan-service would you want her to do in the future?

My favorite so far was maid. I'd like to see cat eared maid in the future though.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by bietchie11

When it's about Erika, it is rude to talk about "swordsmanship" without mentioning fan-service.

So, what is your favorite fan-service Ms.Fan-service offered?
What kind of fan-service would you want her to do in the future?

My fave would be when she her dress got trash by Lina; I can just imagine her.

Kimono Erika; why bcuz traditional girls are more awesome when they tie their hair. Too bad is that Erika didnt spend the new year with Tatsuya. We can always have a festival date like what happend to Harutora and Hokuto.

[TrueAlchemist]

Originally Posted by pampz21

My fave would be when she her dress got trash by Lina; I can just imagine her.

Kimono Erika; why bcuz traditional girls are more awesome when they tie their hair. Too bad is that Erika didnt spend the new year with Tatsuya. We can always have a festival date like what happend to Harutora and Hokuto.

Yukata is more than enough. But, Geisha style kimono would be even better.
This would be interesting, but Erika knows she cannot gain Tatsuya's attention with cloth. So, if she is going out with Tatsuya, I can only imagine a simple Yukata.

[nosaer]

I just watched the latest episode of Mahouka, and Erika's hair seemed to me to be a bit longer than in previous episodes. has anyone else noticed this or is it just me? Maybe the animators pay a bit more attention to detail then I would've given them credit for if that's the case since she starts to rock a ponytail later in the LNs.

[cadu_]

That`s because she`s letting her hair grow.

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