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Levani · 2015-05-09, 13:42

Still, a competent translator would not assume gender like that...

Something tells me that there's going to be a flashback with Bazzet and Kirei when he kills her.

Rava · 2015-05-09, 13:50

I'm guessing the translator picked that because of how much he was gushing over Rin, since there really isn't a gender neutral pronoun you can use for a person.

Polarpew · 2015-05-09, 13:54

wtf is up with this episode, it felt majorly disjointed and lots of black screens and sound cuts. Felt like so many things are missing, didn't flow well either. Was it me or did it feel like the character designs changed for this episode? looks terrible

Levani · 2015-05-09, 13:59

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wtf is up with this episode, it felt majorly disjointed and lots of black screens and sound cuts. Felt like so many things are missing, didn't flow well either. Was it me or did it feel like the character designs changed for this episode? looks terrible

I agree with everything you said other than the character designs, they looked beautiful to me.

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I'm guessing the translator picked that because of how much he was gushing over Rin, since there really isn't a gender neutral pronoun you can use for a person.

One's self could work in that sentence I think, am I wrong? I'm not a native speaker.

adab1za · 2015-05-09, 14:04

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This is a mistranslation, right? I didn't hear anything indicating a female in the JPN line. Did the translator assume his master was a female? I mean, there's no way that's possible since it's Kirei but maybe there's some flashback with Bazzet? This translator should have access to further episodes right?

It was mentioned in ep14 that Lancer master is a female (during kotomine and caster master talk )

So I guess that's why he used herself

Rising Dragon · 2015-05-09, 14:08

It could be a deliberate translation to throw viewers off. If you notice in the Fifth War, all of the Masters and Servants had a male/female pairing setup. Shirou and Arturia, Rin and EMIYA, Atram and Medea, Medea and Kuzuki, Medea and Sasaki, Shinji and Medusa (thus saving up the twist of Sakura being Rider's actual summoner and Master). The only off pairing was Kotomine and Lancer (and even then Lancer had been summoned by a woman). So it could be to throw the audience off their game.

But chances are it was just a mistake.

Levani · 2015-05-09, 14:09

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It was mentioned in ep14 that Lancer master is a female (during kotomine and caster master talk )

Really? I don't remember that...

Too lazy to go and check xDD

Rising Dragon · 2015-05-09, 14:13

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Really? I don't remember that...

Too lazy to go and check xDD

Yeah, I just checked. As Atram was leaving, the subs that I use refer to Lancer's Master as a she.

adab1za · 2015-05-09, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Levani

Really? I don't remember that...

Too lazy to go and check xDD

I remember caster master saying kanojo when he was leaving

Levani · 2015-05-09, 14:18

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Yeah, I just checked. As Atram was leaving, the subs that I use refer to Lancer's Master as a she.

Ah, yeah, you're right. But by that point, Bazzet is already dead right?

Yeah, this is most likely the translator being confused. Ehh, really wanted a Bazzet scene, at least for a half a minute xD

Lorhand · 2015-05-09, 14:19

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Yeah, I just checked. As Atram was leaving, the subs that I use refer to Lancer's Master as a she.

The subs are correct and it makes perfect sense, as Bazett is indeed a "fellow colleague from the Association". Atomic Gatorade couldn't know she was backstabbed and her Servant stolen.

Rava · 2015-05-09, 14:20

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Originally Posted by adab1za

I remember caster master saying kanojo when he was leaving

Ooo, this is true.

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Originally Posted by Levani

One's self could work in that sentence I think, am I wrong? I'm not a native speaker.

You never hear people say this in spoken language, unless they're quoting something written. I've only seen/heard it in writing, so it's probably deprecated.

dmaxzero · 2015-05-09, 15:05

I though the UBW part would last longer or have more animation. Still was good and felt epic.

Amarantine · 2015-05-09, 15:53

That was the only scene in all three routes of FSN where we really see Archer's UBW, and not only did it look subpar, the scene felt incredibly rushed. Furthermore, instead of Shirou counterattacking with a sword rain of his own, he replicated the swords in his hands one by one. I have to say, unless ufotable somehow pull a miraculous patch-up job in the BD version, this was easily the most poorly adapted episode thus far.

Thankfully, the second half of the episode was a lot better, and hopefully what animation they saved here will be put to good use in the next episode, because it has a lot of potential, since the first half will consist of Archer's great speech and the second should contain Lancer's heroics.

ShadowSamurai365 · 2015-05-09, 16:05

Have there been any news of any content being cut from this episode?

HandofFate · 2015-05-09, 16:10

How come Gilgamesh doesn't get pissed and attack Archer after Archer talked down to Shinji and him if they try to interfere?

Is it because Gilgamesh thinks the whole thing is amusing and he wants a front row seat to a good show between archer and emiya

Levani · 2015-05-09, 16:15

Can anyone explain to me what Gilgamesh was doing in the post-credits scene?

NAJ P. Jackson · 2015-05-09, 16:27

Did DEEN have something to do with this episode? Because that UBW fight scene was even Lamer than the UBW movie.

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Can anyone explain to me what Gilgamesh was doing in the post-credits scene?

He's there to take over Ryuudo temple. Recall in the VN that they use the temple as the location to "create" the abomination of a Grail.

Levani · 2015-05-09, 16:30

Oh right, how stupid of me. Now I remember.

One final question, do Saber and Gilgamesh have an encounter in UBW? Do they speak about the 4th Holy Grail war?

NAJ P. Jackson · 2015-05-09, 16:33

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Oh right, how stupid of me. Now I remember.

One final question, do Saber and Gilgamesh have an encounter in UBW? Do they speak about the 4th Holy Grail war?

Nope. Not as I recall. Saber was too busy fighting Assassin in the Temple stairs while Shirou fought Gil.

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Polarpew Bash'a no falor talah Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York USA Age: 33	wtf is up with this episode, it felt majorly disjointed and lots of black screens and sound cuts. Felt like so many things are missing, didn't flow well either. Was it me or did it feel like the character designs changed for this episode? looks terrible __________________ Epicness

2015-05-09, 14:08	Link #26
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	It could be a deliberate translation to throw viewers off. If you notice in the Fifth War, all of the Masters and Servants had a male/female pairing setup. Shirou and Arturia, Rin and EMIYA, Atram and Medea, Medea and Kuzuki, Medea and Sasaki, Shinji and Medusa (thus saving up the twist of Sakura being Rider's actual summoner and Master). The only off pairing was Kotomine and Lancer (and even then Lancer had been summoned by a woman). So it could be to throw the audience off their game. But chances are it was just a mistake. __________________

2015-05-09, 16:10	Link #36
HandofFate Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	How come Gilgamesh doesn't get pissed and attack Archer after Archer talked down to Shinji and him if they try to interfere? Is it because Gilgamesh thinks the whole thing is amusing and he wants a front row seat to a good show between archer and emiya __________________ ...

2015-05-09, 13:42	Link #21
Levani 貴方が私のマスターか？ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Georgia, Tbilisi	Still, a competent translator would not assume gender like that... Something tells me that there's going to be a flashback with Bazzet and Kirei when he kills her.

2015-05-09, 13:50	Link #22
Rava Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm guessing the translator picked that because of how much he was gushing over Rin, since there really isn't a gender neutral pronoun you can use for a person.

2015-05-09, 15:05	Link #33
dmaxzero Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	I though the UBW part would last longer or have more animation. Still was good and felt epic.

2015-05-09, 15:53	Link #34
Amarantine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	That was the only scene in all three routes of FSN where we really see Archer's UBW, and not only did it look subpar, the scene felt incredibly rushed. Furthermore, instead of Shirou counterattacking with a sword rain of his own, he replicated the swords in his hands one by one. I have to say, unless ufotable somehow pull a miraculous patch-up job in the BD version, this was easily the most poorly adapted episode thus far. Thankfully, the second half of the episode was a lot better, and hopefully what animation they saved here will be put to good use in the next episode, because it has a lot of potential, since the first half will consist of Archer's great speech and the second should contain Lancer's heroics.

2015-05-09, 16:05	Link #35
ShadowSamurai365 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014	Have there been any news of any content being cut from this episode?

2015-05-09, 16:15	Link #37
Levani 貴方が私のマスターか？ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Georgia, Tbilisi	Can anyone explain to me what Gilgamesh was doing in the post-credits scene?

2015-05-09, 16:30	Link #39
Levani 貴方が私のマスターか？ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Georgia, Tbilisi	Oh right, how stupid of me. Now I remember. One final question, do Saber and Gilgamesh have an encounter in UBW? Do they speak about the 4th Holy Grail war?