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2014-08-11, 12:35 | Link #24 | |
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2014-08-11, 12:43 | Link #25 |
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Not listing, but simply mentioning and examining their situation in detail. I know the process some specific sites are currently in, and the users who frequent them might just find such a post useful. Still, I am not allowed to share it. Therefore, if this thread holds any discussion value at all, it is relatively extremely low. That is if we take the ability of sharing and connecting to specific websites as the reference point. Do know that not all the websites listed are under the same effect. The targeting styles and coverage varies from one to another, and if one were to specifically examine the situation for the site(s) he/she knows, it could bring much more information than the current.
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2014-08-11, 13:02 | Link #26 | |
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2014-08-11, 13:27 | Link #27 | |
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Would be interesting if they published that entire thing in English. 141 pages of Japanese is tiring to translate, though it would be amusing if the world gives them the middle finger for publishing it in Japanese instead of the lingua franca.
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2014-08-11, 13:41 | Link #28 | |
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Next to that, let's take a look from your point of view. Let's say you are correct and that there is nothing interesting to say about the sites in specific. If we assume that, then it is clearly visible that the OP in this thread already points everything out, leaving this thread with no discussion value. The majority of the responses are pretty much a discussion on what should be discussed here in the first place. All in all, this thread could hold excellent discussion if it were to be open for examples and allow posting statistics as well as hip & happening for specific sites around. Without that, yet again, it holds no to very minor discussion value. |
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2014-08-11, 14:24 | Link #31 |
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You may be laughting right now, but did you ever hear of GEMA in Germany? It may end up exactly like that... anything that seems anime related will be instantly taken down. Well I hope it does not happen, but it would not surprise me.
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2014-08-11, 14:33 | Link #32 |
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I don't understand. YouTube should be one of the easiest to put under control, especially if Google were to cooperate. And no, they wouldn't be targeting YouTube, but rather YouTube channels that would brake their policies. Google is already sweeping those per request, but I guess they want to emphasize the frequency of the clearing.
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2014-08-11, 14:37 | Link #33 | ||
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But the point I'm making is that discussing how much in danger any of these sites are is pointless. If they're gone, they're gone. The only thing it changes from the users side is where to get their content. When MangaHelpers was caught sharing raws, they made the decision to stop sharing or to find ways around the requests. They decided to stop sharing. In fact they even tried to go legal, iirc, but the effort didn't go anywhere at the time. From the users perspective though, it simply meant getting raws from somewhere else. The reason we're restricting that kind of discussion is because we don't want to encourage discussion about what sites are closing, and where people should migrate to next. There's search engines, use them. We're no longer involved in those things. Quote:
The thread has plenty of discussion value. Just not the kind you want.
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2014-08-11, 14:40 | Link #34 | |
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And will there be extraordinary rendition? [/sarcasm]
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2014-08-11, 14:45 | Link #35 | |
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I'll be keeping an eye on this thread and if any new point(s) will peak my interest, I'll make sure to contribute as well. My point of view on the matter on short: they have dedicated themselves quite a huge goal. In my opinion, the majority of the plan will most likely end in a failure. If there is one thing that is unnecessary is for the community to be afraid of the movement hitting too hard. This is far from from being the first attempt, and it most likely won't be the last. For the better or worse, internet cannot and most likely will not be controlled completely for relatively a long period of time. (That reminds me, I'm writing a Sci-Fi novel where it actually is fully controlled by three major corporations ) |
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2014-08-11, 15:08 | Link #36 |
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Japanese businessmen will bust down your door, take your animes, insult your waifu, and steal your lolis. When they're gone, you'll have shattered figmas on the floor and a faint smell of saki, cigarettes, and shame lingering in the air.
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2014-08-11, 15:20 | Link #37 | |
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YouTube is one of the most likely to roll over and play dead on anything related to registered trademarks or copyright infringement. YouTube has been badly nerfed over the last few years over this sort of thing. There was a time I could put up a Madoka Magica AMV on YouTube with ease and nary a thought. That's certainly not the case today. YouTube still has some value though. You can find some anime OPs there, and full versions of anime OP songs. You can even find some anime OSTs there. It would be a shame if this value was to be lost as well.
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2014-08-11, 15:42 | Link #38 | ||
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2014-08-11, 15:53 | Link #39 |
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Indeed. Although it might seem minor at first sight, there still would be a huge difference with or without such uploads for others to view and enjoy. While such smaller factors are accessible via YouTube as of current, it is quite possible that they will be forced underground as well. At that time, there will be no gray zone, only pure white or black. But then again, that is only if a relatively huge part of this movement were to actually be successfully executed.
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Plus, it operates on a guilty until proven innocent system. So any jerk can make a claim, and you have to prove they are wrong. With the three strikes system, this can make fighting claims extremely painful, especially if you're a bigger user that uploads a lot of videos. It's a system ripe for trolling, sadly. Quote:
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And yeah, I don't think many people even realize we still have a main site.
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