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Hayate did realize she was messing up and wasn't ready for such a role, and Nanoha/Fate have their own jobs they like. Quote:
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2011-02-03, 12:06 | Link #22 |
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I mean how the Bureau got its asses handed to them when Jail attacked the ground forces building, how a high ranking member was corrupt, and how the highest power in the Bureau was responsible for everything.
Of course those latter two things were likely covered up.
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2011-02-03, 12:10 | Link #23 | |
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Also, considering Nanoha and Fate basically told Hayate that they'd be offended if she didn't invite them (while they were all in bed together!), I don't think they care much. Fate and Nanoha still get to do their thing, regardless of whether they are in RF6 or not. |
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2011-02-03, 12:15 | Link #24 | ||
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Regius indeed was the one who went against the Bureau's rules and endangered the planet. That can be turned into the Bureau's favor. The brains were the highest power in the bureau... 80 years ago. They didn't have any official power anymore. Quote:
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2011-02-03, 12:15 | Link #25 |
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I don't think it was ever implied RF6 are reformed for -good- here - just as the best shot the Bureau has of beating these guys. And really, what else is there to add if the guys who fought off the Saint's Cradle couldn't do it with these weapons?
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2011-02-03, 12:24 | Link #26 |
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Riot Force 6 was disbanded because it served its purpose. It was formed to deal with the Relic incident, and when that was done with, that was it.
And where's it say the brains didn't have any power? They were still the TSAB High Council. Sure sounds like a powerful position. Regius still answered to them and the 3 Admirals did too I believe.
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2011-02-03, 13:07 | Link #28 | |
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Hell, the manga keeps referring to them as Section Six. If there were no section six anymore, it wouldn't call them that. Like I said, you can be pedantic about it(but it's not technically RF6!), but for all intents and purposes, Section Six has reformed to deal with this latest incident. About the only people they don't have is Vice, Alto, Griffith, and the ground support staff, although the Wolfram would have a crew for support. And if they have Lucino, odds are Griffith is around somewhere, or playing house husband because the series hates males, heh. They don't need helicopter transport yet, so I can see Vice and Alto aren't around. Although it might be interesting to see Vice use a Strike Cannon. |
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2011-02-03, 16:20 | Link #29 |
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Then lies the posibility of Section Six beign dispbanded after this battle? I mean they ended with their asses handed to them by the enemy, destroying high-value weapon prototypes in the process and capturing none of the targets, in short, they got screwed. Probably Hayate will start struggling with attempts to disband her unit and other divisions wanting to launch more readical or agressive operations to deal with the Huckebein.
Taking into consideration that the Strike Cannon still use the user's mana to power it's batteries and the fact that Vice have half of Teana's power this is pretty much unlikely. A less powerfull sniper-customed version will be very cool, tough.
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2011-02-03, 17:49 | Link #31 | |
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Thus, it will be interesting to see if this battle is seen as a "failure" by the upper brass. Or whether they are granted some more leeway, as long as they don't mess up horribly. |
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2011-02-03, 17:51 | Link #32 | |
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"Uh, yes?" "Good job."
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2011-02-03, 18:09 | Link #34 |
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If they're all alive and their ship is intact it's honestly no more than a bruising.
I mean people are making a big deal out of it because it's the main characters losing a fight, but you think no high level mage ever died in the line of duty in the TSAB? Look at Clyde.
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2011-02-03, 18:46 | Link #36 | |
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It also depends on if Tsuzuki wants to address any politics in this. I liked that aspect in StrikerS, and I do feel like there is another part to this story that involves the Bureau in connection with those scientists, so we'll see. I could envision a scenario where the ultimate mastermind(s) contacts the Hucks and says, "Now you see that you can be hurt. Get back in line, or I'll send even more of these forces out after you." And if they do, such a person might try to delay or disband RF6, possibly using a retreat as a wedge. |
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2011-02-03, 19:05 | Link #37 |
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Yep, the Tilda Lanster example is a very interesting one. It's pretty strange that even if he die in the line fo duty he's remebered as a failure by the TSAB. So, the TSAB actually hold victory in pretty up regard(enough to blame those who suffer defeat) or they try to make a distraction/covert up for something else.Whichever is the case, the Lanster family ended up paying for it.
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2011-02-03, 19:48 | Link #39 |
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I might be giving Tsuzuki too much credit to think he's tying StrikerS and Force together with the same Bureau conspiracy that's still going, despite the loss of Regius and the Brains. But it might be interesting to learn there are still side projects going, with more middle manager types still aiming for an advantage to move up.
Probably won't happen, but I'd like to see that Tiida Lanster had stumbled into this and died shortly thereafter. Teana, in her investigation, manages to come up against the Bureau official who badmouthed him before, realizing that he's the same official behind the Eclipse research. |
2011-02-03, 20:44 | Link #40 |
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As I think I've said before, our heroes are fighting against an enemy on whom they have next-to-no intelligence and using weapons barely out of experimental testing and seeing their first use in a combat situation. From a field-testing and intelligence-gathering perspective, Section 6 has fared pretty well. Given the strength of their enemies, I don't think anyone reasonable can fault them for their battle losses.
...Of course, this isn't to say that the TSAB is reasonable. Bureaucracy can be rigidly irrational, and clever bureaucratic enemies can spin things however they wish. Section 6 isn't in danger here; only Hayate's career plans. |
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