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Dark Wing · 2013-10-12, 12:21

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Originally Posted by Quol

This episode was a really great episode in my opinion, the only problem with it for me would be how they over dramatized PKing.

I thought that when you get pk'ed in this kind of situation you're dead like really dead?

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-12, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

I thought that when you get pk'ed in this kind of situation you're dead like really dead?

There is no "really dead" in this world. The victims come back to life in the temple just like everyone else.

On a different topic, I was a bit leery when they started riding the gryphons about Akatsuki riding side-saddle. I mean, that's not exactly a stable sitting position, and it seems like an invitation to fall off: not a good thing when riding several hundred meters above the ground. Then I realized, considering how small she is and how broad the critter's back is, she probably can't sit astride it.

And, of course, it makes her look all the more adorable.

MartianMage · 2013-10-12, 12:27

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Originally Posted by Quol

This episode was a really great episode in my opinion, the only problem with it for me would be how they over dramatized PKing.

Also akatsuki has turned into my favorite now lol

Well you know how it is in MMOs... quite a lot of people get touchy about getting PK'd when most of the time it only entails a lost of few rank points.

Quol · 2013-10-12, 12:41

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

There is no "really dead" in this world. The victims come back to life in the temple just like everyone else.

On a different topic, I was a bit leery when they started riding the gryphons about Akatsuki riding side-saddle. I mean, that's not exactly a stable sitting position, and it seems like an invitation to fall off: not a good thing when riding several hundred meters above the ground. Then I realized, considering how small she is and how broad the critter's back is, she probably can't sit astride it.

And, of course, it makes her look all the more adorable.

Spoiler for Akatsuki drinking tea:

When you said it made her look adorable it reminded me of this.

aohige · 2013-10-12, 12:47

Blaat · 2013-10-12, 12:59

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Originally Posted by MartianMage

Well you know how it is in MMOs... quite a lot of people get touchy about getting PK'd when most of the time it only entails a lost of few rank points.

And usually being consistently PKed by the same person over and over again in the area or corpse camped until they get tired of it.

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The fight was really wordy, but it really comes down to

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Agreed with both statements, fights in MMO tends to be rather faced paced but here it was rather slow, like we're watching a bunch of keyboard turners with a mouse sensitivity speed of 0 trying to kill each other.

I remember in vanilla WoW (a very long time ago) you could indefinitely CC until reduced the numbers and added diminishing returns. It's really common in MMOs now, I'm surprised this game doesn't have it.

Dark Faith · 2013-10-12, 13:14

So I guess that...

...after all...

...people don't die when they are killed.

Sheba · 2013-10-12, 13:18

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Originally Posted by MartianMage

Well you know how it is in MMOs... quite a lot of people get touchy about getting PK'd when most of the time it only entails a lost of few rank points.

I can confirm that. Being on the receiving end of PKing is NEVER fun.

Quol · 2013-10-12, 13:28

I dont know about that, whenever i play MMOs PvP is always a major part of my time. I find killing other players to be fun (since most of the time its harder then NPCs), however i never really mind if i die. Even if a person asks if they can kill me i dont mind.
Besides i made a lot of friends from killing them (kinda ironic)

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-12, 13:30

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OMG I WANT TO KEEP HER!

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Agreed with both statements, fights in MMO tends to be rather faced paced but here it was rather slow, like we're watching a bunch of keyboard turners with a mouse sensitivity speed of 0 trying to kill each other.

Well, that's because:
A: it's not an MMO anymore, it's real life for them, so they're not just hammering on macros to try to kill everything,
and
B: we had pauses in the action to allow Shiroe to exposit on things.

Xellos-_^ · 2013-10-12, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Estavali

For those interested, sub-jobs are classified under three general categories:

1) Craftsman types: Basically sub-jobs that allows one to craft items. Examples are Blacksmith, Carpenter, Scribe, Brewmaster, etc.

2) Role-play types: As the name suggests. Examples are Housemaid, Dancer, Apprentice, etc.

3) Special types: These sub-jobs are available only after fulfilling conditions. One example would be Sword Savant/Kensei.

Unlike main jobs, sub-jobs can be switched whenever the player desires and are usually easier to level too.

any restriction on the subclass?

kobester11 · 2013-10-12, 13:39

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Ep 2

A bit too wordy episode, although I understand why they did it.
The "censorship" method they chose is kinda diluting some things.

Basically all the dark tones were avoided all together.
It's understandable why it was done, but it does take away some of the edge and desperation from it.

Dude its NHK, what would you expect? But yeah, i hope they add the blood at the BDs lol

s07195 · 2013-10-12, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Dark Faith

So I guess that...

...after all...

...people don't die when they are killed.

You forgot the sunglasses.

aohige · 2013-10-12, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

any restriction on the subclass?

You can only choose 1 per character.
However, you can give up your current one and adopt another.

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Dude its NHK, what would you expect? But yeah, i hope they add the blood at the BDs lol

Blood isn't a big deal, the problem is instantly vanishing and not leaving corpses. It's supposed to.

This isn't because of a personal preference, it actually has plot importances.

As for the PKing...
It's fine as a system that's part of a videogame.

However, remember, this isn't a game anymore. Sure, you can't permanently die.
But there is pain. There is hunger. There is need for shelter.
PK in this world is basically assault & robbery.

It's no longer the worst crime you can commit, but it's still not going to sit well with anyone who has a moral value.

ZabiLegacy · 2013-10-12, 14:25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDWU2SR27g4

Kirito · 2013-10-12, 14:37

Just finished this episode and it was really enjoyable. So now we know that "death" in this game isn't permanent so that's a surprise, but the issue with this is that it seems that pking is somewhat encouraged because of this. Many common MMO concepts being put to good use here and that's refreshing to see since I'm an RPG fan myself.

Shiro's team dynamic is really intriguing, as expected from a strategist and an ex high class guild member. I look forward to seeing his back toward about the Debauchery Tea Party days, and judging by the preview for next weeks episode we might learn something.

Other than that, great episode and I can't want for next week.

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"Squeals like a school girl" She's just so adorable!

I hope she gets nominated on one of the Anime Saimoe Tournaments. She's got my vote, hands down!

"Sighs" If only if people on AS were nice enough to help me understand it, it'll be smooth sailing.

Anh_Minh · 2013-10-12, 14:39

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You can only choose 1 per character.
However, you can give up your current one and adopt another.

And if you pick it up again you'll still have all your points?

Puu · 2013-10-12, 14:53

Dying is nasty in MMO especially if you've got high-level gear like I imagine Shiroe and his friends do being at level 90. In Guild Wars 2, for example, if you die one of your armor pieces get broken (which means running around partially naked/less defense) and if you liked that armor you gotta repair it... at obscene prices.

And that's without experiencing death "firsthand" like they do.

Anyway, I thought this episode was great. I really liked it when you got to see Shiroe at work: it seems to me that he has a very vast knowledge of Elder Tales' classes and subclasses and how to work against them/use them. It was really great to watch his team at work!

The only thing is that- really? That's some crazy handicap he has on his character by choosing a weak support main class and.... that subclass.

I mean, sure it's useful with warp gates inactive but still .....

Xellos-_^ · 2013-10-12, 14:56

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The only thing is that- really? That's some crazy handicap he has on his character by choosing a weak support main class and.... that subclass.

I mean, sure it's useful with warp gates inactive but still .....

it is challenging and that was probably what he looking for.

And it is very useful and would be in high demand form any guild or group.

Xacual · 2013-10-12, 15:01

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Shiro's team dynamic is really intriguing, as expected from a strategist and an ex high class guild member. I look forward to seeing his back toward about the Debauchery Tea Party days, and judging by the preview for next weeks episode we might learn something.

Debauchery Tea Party wasn't a guild, just the informal name for the group of players that challenged all these high level raids and dungeons.

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Puu Senior Member Join Date: May 2013	Dying is nasty in MMO especially if you've got high-level gear like I imagine Shiroe and his friends do being at level 90. In Guild Wars 2, for example, if you die one of your armor pieces get broken (which means running around partially naked/less defense) and if you liked that armor you gotta repair it... at obscene prices. And that's without experiencing death "firsthand" like they do. Anyway, I thought this episode was great. I really liked it when you got to see Shiroe at work: it seems to me that he has a very vast knowledge of Elder Tales' classes and subclasses and how to work against them/use them. It was really great to watch his team at work! The only thing is that- really? That's some crazy handicap he has on his character by choosing a weak support main class and.... that subclass. I mean, sure it's useful with warp gates inactive but still .....