Shin High School DxD Volume 4 Discussion

[godz]

after this volume we will have to organize the dxd power levels in the waiting time of the new volume ... before it would not have seemed unheard of for a dragon king to resist so much Fenrir to 80%, since we had the memory of volume 7 where Fenrir 100% easily and quickly defeated tannin.

and I don't think the remaining 20% of such a difference.

[Lucidrago]

So I'm guessing that Issei officially adds Ingvild to his team this volume due to the chapter titled 'Team Member.'

And maybe something important will be revealed in the Gremory bloodline like an important ancestor or something. Like maybe due to their geneology, they can enhance certain abilities or powers through the mixing of their blood with others. Which may explain why the Power of Destruction is so strong in Sirzechs, Rias, and Millicas. And maybe there are those targeting Rias and Millicas because of this like Nebiros.

And the chapter Bael may be Sairaorg talking with Seekvaira like it was in Volume 9. And he may be talking about Issei's current power level and promotion and how far ahead Issei has gone ahead of him in a short time. And he may be discussing with Seekvaira his upcoming match with Indra and possible strategies to defeating Team Vajra and Sairaorg hints at having a new form that could possibly allow him to defeat Indra.

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

So I'm guessing that Issei officially adds Ingvild to his team this volume due to the chapter titled 'Team Member.'

Probably are the team members from Vali and Wukong team.

I think that I saw both teams in the spoilers

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by AzazelDxD

Probably are the team members from Vali and Wukong team.

I think that I saw both teams in the spoilers

We did. Sorry about that. I wasn't thinkihg.

I can't wait to see what abilities Balberith and Verrine have. If they even have special abilities.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

So I'm guessing that Issei officially adds Ingvild to his team this volume due to the chapter titled 'Team Member.'

And maybe something important will be revealed in the Gremory bloodline like an important ancestor or something. Like maybe due to their geneology, they can enhance certain abilities or powers through the mixing of their blood with others. Which may explain why the Power of Destruction is so strong in Sirzechs, Rias, and Millicas. And maybe there are those targeting Rias and Millicas because of this like Nebiros.

And the chapter Bael may be Sairaorg talking with Seekvaira like it was in Volume 9. And he may be talking about Issei's current power level and promotion and how far ahead Issei has gone ahead of him in a short time. And he may be discussing with Seekvaira his upcoming match with Indra and possible strategies to defeating Team Vajra and Sairaorg hints at having a new form that could possibly allow him to defeat Indra.

It is impossible defeat indra

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

It is impossible defeat indra

until Issei defeats him lol

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

until Issei defeats him lol

Certainly in the semifinal issei will defeat him, after all Indra wants since the vol25 a fight with issei, this is why he gived to him amrita.
But issei is a heavenly dragon class, not Sairaorg who is a lot of weaker

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

We did. Sorry about that. I wasn't thinkihg.

I can't wait to see what abilities Balberith and Verrine have. If they even have special abilities.

Shin 3 confirmed that Bal can use demonic power.. He is not unlucky like Sairaorg in this..

I would not be surprised if Bal and Verrine have the BASIC.. Without special abilities.

Probably the 2 idiots that died had abilities because they were weak compared with dxd strongest members and Ishi thought that they needed more to not be defeated easily.

[Hakai]

their special ability is getting nerfed when plot requires

[AzazelDxD]

They are not the only characters with that skill

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by Dragon Sin

their special ability is getting nerfed when plot requires

Like with every characters.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by godz

after this volume we will have to organize the dxd power levels in the waiting time of the new volume ... before it would not have seemed unheard of for a dragon king to resist so much Fenrir to 80%, since we had the memory of volume 7 where Fenrir 100% easily and quickly defeated tannin.

and I don't think the remaining 20% of such a difference.

I think that we have not provide too much attention to this, especially when Verrine who has defeated the Asura gods (Gods powerful) easily, without fatigue and injures, will be defeated by Balor rias (over maou class). All of this is ridicolous.

[OmegaWeaponZ]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

I think that we have not provide too much attention to this, especially when Verrine who has defeated the Asura gods (Gods powerful) easily, without fatigue and injures, will be defeated by Balor rias (over maou class). All of this is ridicolous.

Well, considering that Maou's can potentially rival Gods (the floor and ceiling for each class is somewhat blurred and not clearly defined - there are weak gods, and the maou of the past don't compare with the current or future ones), and you even mention that Balor form is greater than Maou class (ie. her power should exceed a class that can rival gods), I think should put them in a similar league, even if barely.

While pure power can basically steam roll anything (See: Dragons), should two individuals of comparable strength fight, strategy, mental state, situation, etc. all should factor in determining a winner.

Now I'm not saying Rias is the strongest nor the smartest among the young devils (actually not even close on either account), but the setting for a good fight is there.

Regardless, the volume will be out soon so we can find out how and why things develop the way they do, so relax a bit, ye?

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by OmegaWeaponZ

Well, considering that Maou's can potentially rival Gods (the floor and ceiling for each class is somewhat blurred and not clearly defined - there are weak gods, and the maou of the past don't compare with the current or future ones), and you even mention that Balor form is greater than Maou class (ie. her power should exceed a class that can rival gods), I think should put them in a similar league, even if barely.

While pure power can basically steam roll anything (See: Dragons), should two individuals of comparable strength fight, strategy, mental state, situation, etc. all should factor in determining a winner.

Now I'm not saying Rias is the strongest nor the smartest among the young devils (actually not even close on either account), but the setting for a good fight is there.

Regardless, the volume will be out soon so we can find out how and why things develop the way they do, so relax a bit, ye?

For the truth, there is a big difference among Maou class and God class, but the 4 actually maous with Belial and Issei can win against the Gods of Low level who are of the commerce ecc, thanks to their op ability and experience.

Loki, probably a god of middle level, could manage the attacks of 2 maou class like Azazel and Baraqiel without any difficult, they was not even a danger for him.

There is difference to defeat gods of low level and those middle and high level.

Balor rias is only the over maou class, she can defeat the weakest Gods.
Verrine is a super devils, and has defeated all those Asura Gods without any fatigue and injures is crazy. Those Gods are of the batte/war, not of low level.

For Balor rias, to defeat a super devil like Verrine is crazy and without any logic. There is too difference in power

[CCPDarkraiRules]

There was a live stream for DxD today and Ishibumi was on it which he also said somethings about the tournament:

Spoiler for Azazel Cup spoilers:

Ishibumi confirmed that Vali vs Tobio will happen in in a DX volume like how Cao Cao vs Sairaorg is in DX.4 also with this he has indirectly confirmed that Dulio loses to Tobio and Sun Wukong loses to Vali (But we all knew Vali was going to win against Sun Wukong).

[Hakai]

I know most people expected Vali would fight Tobio, but still...

Damn Ishi's racism against angels strikes again
Dulio truly is the Irina of the male harem

[godz]

if the demons have superdemons, the angels should have superangels... so to match things, because the demons have too much power unlike the other two Christian factions or revive God with sephirot graal.

And if someone says the fallen angels, I remind you that the improvement of angels can lead some of these to fall and improve the sector of the fallen.
#justiceforheaven

[Hakai]

Even in EX, Asia and Xenovia's kid looked more impressive than the Angel kid

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by godz

if the demons have superdemons, the angels should have superangels... so to match things, because the demons have too much power unlike the other two Christian factions or revive God with sephirot graal.

And if someone says the fallen angels, I remind you that the improvement of angels can lead some of these to fall and improve the sector of the fallen.
#justiceforheaven

True, the demons are so strong that can destroy the Heaven and Grigori without big problem...and in the future, will be also worse with the new super demons and maous with issei's childrens. And we have to see if Balberith and Verrine will follow issei.

[bluestahli1]

Dulio at least isn't boring like Irina.