Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei - generic discussion thread (NO SPOILERS)

[DragoonKain3]

I've always pegged Hayamin as the 'successor' to Mamiko Noto myself. XD

[Burden]

As it's looking it's the only series this season I'm looking forward to.

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Burden

As it's looking it's the only series this season I'm looking forward to.

I predict that the adaptation would be a disaster. I also predict that this thread is going to be set on fire within a month or so, judging by the kind of treatment Spring Previews are giving Mahouka.

[Mentar]

Originally Posted by novalysis

I predict that the adaptation would be a disaster. I also predict that this thread is going to be set on fire within a month or so, judging by the kind of treatment Spring Previews are giving Mahouka.

Let me be blunt. This rather shows how clueless most of these "previews" are. Mahouka is going to get the full SAO treatment, regardless of the fact that the show is very different.

Example: I recently came across psgels' Star Crossed Anime Blog, where he dissed the show based on nothing more than a (wrong) summary from ANN. His summary made clear that he couldn't have had any clue about the show (he got the meaning of "Blooms" and "Weeds" wrong), yet he piled on the show anyway. Sad, because while has's been increasingly critical in the past, he's usually been worth reading.

Naturally the conversion can still turn out to be bad, but proactively dissing the show blindly is becoming a fad. There are several "anime blogs" out there who concentrate on grouchily spewing bile on everything. 95% of anime are terrible/cliche/sucky/idiotic, except for the 5% of the anime the authors like - they happen to be the pearls and best thing since sliced bread. Add a wannabe-elitist echo chamber of commenters who mirror each death sentence with glee, and you get a venomous, hate-filled atmosphere killing all the fun of watching anime.

I suggest to avoid cesspools like these, they only drag everyone down. At least I plan to.

[NutShell]

new CV anouncment


Mayumi Saegusa (CV: Hanazawa Kana)
Suzune Ichihara (CV: Nakahara Mai)
Azusa Nakajou (CV: Ogasawara Saki)

so as leaked before Kana Hana as Mayumi

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Mentar

Snip.

I don't think Mahouka is going to be a disaster for the very superficial reasons that those "previews" gave (PVs fueling perceptions of "Harem" and "Incest", which is generally the two charges these places tend to levy against Mahouka). Rather, I have a fear that they would slaughter the world-building to an unrecognizable wreck , and wouldn't be able to resist the Infinite-Stratos syndrome of inserting original fanservice and harem nonsense at the expense of the rest of Mahouka.

And even if the studio and producers were to avoid such temptations, I still have a fear that the adaptation would adapt exposition badly, or make very strange omissions that leave massive gaps in world-building. At the worse, it would be rushed, and squeezed, with numerous important details simply ommited out in favor of less important details that the producers think would push more BDs.

Also, Mahouka is quite reliant on the internal narrative of their characters. Very few animes do this well - LN adaptations especially fail very hard at this, ironically, since alot of LNs tend to use internal narratives to build their characters up.

In other words, I fear an Infnite Stratos Season 2 on one hand, and on the other, I fear a repeat of Maou Yuusha. Perhaps I am being too pessimistic here, but Mahouka is going to have to beat the odds to be good, and the very structure and nature of Mahouka itself makes it very tall odds to overcome indeed.

I don't think Animesuki is that immune to that "Echo chamber" - it's less afflicted, no doubt than many other places, but SAO demonstrated that it still exist on this forum. Unfortunately, the "Echo Chamber" has enough mass and numbers that anything they happen to hate usually get's set ablaze in anime forums as if someone poured kerosene all over the threads.

Psgels just happened to be the first blogger to fire the first shot at Mahouka.

While I agree that Mahouka is nothing like SAO in premise, plot, characterization, etc - but both share a dependency on the use of exposition (Mahouka much more so) and use internal narratives to build their characters. Animes tend to do badly at intelligently adapting these two elements in- there's a reason why Monogatari is considered exceptional by LN standards, and it's because it's one of the few exceptions in the rule.

It will be surprising if Mahouka proves another such exception.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by NutShell

new CV anouncment


Mayumi Saegusa (CV: Hanazawa Kana)
Suzune Ichihara (CV: Nakahara Mai)
Azusa Nakajou (CV: Ogasawara Saki)

so as leaked before Kana Hana as Mayumi

And as before I still can't imagine KanaHana doing Mayumi, that just doesn't fit for me at all.

[DragoonKain3]

Meh, Yuriko in Kotoura-san is very much like Mayumi without Yuriko's dark past. Pretty much an onee-san type character that likes to tease a lot. Sure Mayumi is a lot more genki than Yuriko, but considering she has done a lot of those, I'm not worried about it myself.

As long as HanaKana doesn't touch another loli (then again it might just be me against loli in general lols), Yamato Nadeshiko (ironically it's her weakest role), or straight up Tsundere (her 'other voice' is too menacing; she does two-faced or yanderes very well as a result though) I'm good.

[NutShell]

^she was a bully there
but as Mayumi i think she lack of serious tone with high pitch,
i still laughing when she threatened sybil system in pp

[Marcus H.]

In other words, I fear an Infnite Stratos Season 2 on one hand, and on the other, I fear a repeat of Maou Yuusha.

Not Madhouse's Mahou Sensou?

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Not Madhouse's Mahou Sensou?

No. That Maou Yuusha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoyu

Interesting premise, with a source whose format was difficult to translate into anime, absolutely atrocious pacing, very scatterbrained world-building that meandered into a dozen incoherent and randomly selected directions, etc.......

Yes, it's not by the same studio, but I don't see how Madhouse can swim against the general trend of stories like Mahouka, which are exposition heavy and world-building driven having anime adaptations that flop horribly. And the general trend of exaggerating Haremish and Rom-Com elements and the High School aspect of LN works, at the expense of the source plot, and world-building isn't something Madhouse is exempt from.

Of course, I might be surprised, but there's alot of ways Mahouka can go wrong, especially given the trends of many animes to spit on the plot of LNs and focus on the cliches instead.

[NutShell]

^whaa hope didn't become like mahou sensou, I drop that on ep 1 and see alot negative comment on that, but a lot of comment blame the original LN

and for Maoyu i think that was a good adaption for 12 ep anime, except the character design (because i more prefer manga design, but the studio prefer original LN design)

[dai ca superman]

[BW95]

Beat's similar to crossing fields, but let's withhold judgement until we get the whole thing.

[Requiem-x]

Doesn't sound that good, but sure, let's wait for the whole thing.

[BW95]

Uh-oh. Why are Honoka's eyes violet?

[Requiem-x]

...violet is a pretty color?

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by BW95

Uh-oh. Why are Honoka's eyes violet?

That was her eye color in the colored illustrations

[NutShell]

sao op on mahouka ? is that what i think first

[Daverick]

You can also listen the 30-second of the OP song "Rising Hope" on LISA official website
http://www.lxixsxa.com/