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View Poll Results: Macross Delta - Episode 19 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 3 | 11.54% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 3 | 11.54% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 6 | 23.08% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 19.23% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 19.23% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 7.69% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 3.85% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 3.85% | |
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2016-08-11, 21:02 | Link #261 | |||
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However, that music was created as a weapon and all that conjure that ippus was saying as if that guy spoke the gospel is naively foolish. It's like buying Roid's "Windermere as master race" speech because it has just about the same reaching and circumstantional evidence, interpretation made by people who have an agenda (Beger sells weapons, duh!). I do agree with most of your points, but I'm not sure that Kawamori wanted to present them that way. So he'll just use Walkure as his mouthpiece about what songs are for. It's not necessarily that I don't understand or agree your point, but I don't believe that Kawamori will acknowledge them. If he does, I'll be pleasantly surprised. Spoiler for Frontier:
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2016-08-11, 21:46 | Link #262 | ||
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But music in the show has been increasingly going down the path of "magical" and with the power came a whole lot of threat. Frankly I thought this way before shitty merchant insert came along. I've already said I thought his theories were a bore. You also seem to miss the fact that no, he's not completely wrong. If he was he'd sound a helluvalot less sinister. |
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2016-08-11, 22:19 | Link #263 |
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Please wrap up the current discussion since it really has nothing to do with the current anime episode and move it to a more appropriate thread.
Thank you. EDIT: Triple R's post was so good that it was easily an opening post for a new thread! |
2016-08-12, 04:03 | Link #264 |
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Well I Berger and Roid as evil parallels of Dr.Chiba and Mao Nome.
Like Chiba Berger believe songs has power. Both are scientists but one believes in the power os songs and those individuals who sing them the other see it as weaponization. Mao and Rod are both researchers of the Protoculture. Where Mao is probably looking at humanity's shared heritage and the whereabouts of of her loved ones Rod wants vindication of his species as being short lived is such a bad joke. |
2016-08-12, 07:10 | Link #265 |
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Everyone fell into a big music debate. Okay, it's a weapon, even if it isn't canon, Macross II delved on this quite a bit, and Delta is now learning it outright. (Again, why is II not canon when it's been referenced in the last 2 entries in the franchise?) That said, it's not the biggest issue with this episode.
An entire episode is dedicated to explaining music in Macross (on a sinister level, agreed) but here is the issue: this episode should be dedicated to exploring a history lesson on Windermere or NUNS involvement in this war, etc. Things which are pieces of the plot are slipping more into the novel than the anime. Feels like us watching the anime are getting the shaft on the overall "story" which is pulling all these characters together. |
2016-08-13, 01:17 | Link #266 | |
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Not to mention that their indignation about Berger's comments about Mikumo were baseless. Yes, Mikumo is their friend, but if she's a normal human, then some simple passive scans should prove or disprove it. None of them got off their asses to go check on it for themselves. Last edited by Convoy; 2016-08-13 at 17:04. |
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2016-08-13, 04:43 | Link #267 | |
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So yeah, as of a few years ago (at least), it does have the same status as all the other 'fictional representations of history' that we know of.
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