Shin High School DxD Volume 2 Discussion

[Djeveler]

Originally Posted by Parry999

And poor Rias is still just a high class devil without Balor form wow.

She does have her Power of Destruction and Extinguish Star, which in Volume 19 didn't really show a crippling charge time like before then.

[Lucidrago]

Still Strada looks like an absolute monster and the embodiment of muscles. I wouldn't want to face him by just looking at him.

I'm officially calling Strada 'Hercules of the Church.'

We should get an illustration of Roygun next volume probably.

[Blazor 98]

Originally Posted by Djeveler

She does have her Power of Destruction and Extinguish Star, which in Volume 19 didn't really show a crippling charge time like before then.

Perhaps but Extinguished Star is irrelevant now since It's banned in the rating game.

[The Infinite Dream]

@Lucidrago

When I saw him I sat down and said no wonder he mastered the destructive power of durandal. Im kind of happy the original came out on top. I think the originals should always be the superior ones.

@Blazor 98

I dont think itd be banned in this one since gods are in it. Shouldnt longinous smasher be banned then too and most other abilities since theyre just as powerful if not stronger?

[syzorst]

Lint

Spoiler:

Nakiri defeats Lint by using the earth to block the angel's attacks then accelerated towards Lint and punch her which retires her. So now Bova, Roygun and Lint are retired. Asia is keeping Crom at bay

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Lint

Spoiler:

Nakiri defeats Lint by using the earth to block the angel's attacks then accelerated towards Lint and punch her which retires her. So now Bova, Roygun and Lint are retired. Asia is keeping Crom at bay

So now Ouryuu's the One-Punch Man now?

Was he having problems catching her due to her speed and having to watch out for the giant angel's attacks?

@Infinite Dream Well no wonder he became a priest. With a body like that, sexual relationships become impossible. I don't think any female could survive that.

[cyberdemon]

I'm kinda disappointed so far that with the exception of the first chapter that Ingvild hasn't been mentioned much. Felt there would be more since she was on the cover with Akeno.

[syzorst]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

So now Ouryuu's the One-Punch Man now?

Was he having problems catching her due to her speed and having to watch out for the giant angel's attacks?

@Infinite Dream Well no wonder he became a priest. With a body like that, sexual relationships become impossible. I don't think any female could survive that.

Well remember that Nikari can manipulate the Earth so that can put a hinder on speedsters and slow them down.

[syzorst]

Also

Spoiler:

Before Roygun waa retired she used her ability in a time bomb manner on Lint would've retired regardless even of Nikari Didn't beat her

I forgot to about this. In the beginning.

Spoiler:

At the beginning of the RG, both sides shake hands. Then they get transported to their bases. The location of the RG is a replica version of Kuoh Town. Issei's base is his house but there's nothing inside, and Rias' is the High School. Issei's team have the strategy meeting, where their 3 main battles will be Balor Princess, Strada, and Crom. Issei says that even Bina can hardly cope with the 3 of them. Balor Princess is beyond Maou and its amazing she was able to fight 80% Fenrir. The problem is that even they attack Issei, he could only handle 2 of them as Ddraig has a time limit and even if Issei's a god, he cant fight all 3 of them at once. There's also the 2 other Longinus and any trump cards they may have. They decided to focus on Rias and avoid Crom and Strada. Crom is unwilling to use Promotion. As well as focus on Valerie as she's their healer. The most important thing in the game is Issei. With the meeting almost over, Ravel sends Roygun, Bova, and Elmen to scout. They say to fight Balor, try to make her consume as much physical strength of Rias and Gasper and avoid the range of the monsters.

Suddenly as they were about to move the ground vibrates. They rush outside and hear that a Pawn of theirs has retired. They see Roygun in the air as well as a 3-eyed beast, a purple battlefield, a 6-winged angel, and Kiba with Strada. Bova has been retired. In the opening stage Rias personally made a surprise attack, and Rias' eyes glowed Red stopping Roygun then she gets retired as well. Issei tried to save her, but Ravel stops him saying they need to avoid losing any more people. Ravel tries to calm Issei down and the real battle starts now.

[TommyG]

I'm curious, since Rias has now lost, will Lint, Crom and Strada still play an active role in the story? Or will they all go back to their homes?

[Emperor of D.]

Originally Posted by TommyG

I'm curious, since Rias has now lost, will Lint, Crom and Strada still play an active role in the story? Or will they all go back to their homes?

I don't know about Lint but Strada is pretty much done as far as story. Xenovia broke his sword and he got the chance to fight Arthur in a rematch. Strada can now retire. As for Crom, he got what he wanted which was to fight the Heavenly Dragon so his role in the story is is going to be very minor.

[syzorst]

Issei vs Rias

Spoiler:

I found more spoilers. The battle between Rias and Issei isn't long.

Issei confronts Rias at the roof of the Academy building where she is waiting for him and they are reminiscing about the past. Rias says She's glad she fell in love with Issei. And tells Gasper "now". Gasper's shadow creeps up and surrounds Rias body as she goes into Balor form.

Issei says you are a female so you should know I have the advantage and uses dress break. The Darkness around Rias falls apart but suddenly attaches itself back to Rias body.

Rias says your dressbreak is useless as I have thought of a way to deal with it. As Issei thinks of a way to deal with Rias, her eyes starts to glow red and Issei immediately retreats and fly in the sky as Rias launches as massive attack of POD at that that could have defeated him.

Issei suddenly remembers what Indra said, "Do you know the difference between you and Rias? Rias Gremory is strong even without you but you do not do well without Ravel."

Issei thought of a strategy. Issei uses dressbreak on Rias. Rias says It's useless but Issei took the opportunity to use his tail to attach to Rias. He uses the Breast Canon by sucking the power out of Rias breast. Rias breast energy is being sucked away and she can't focus on using her POD. Rias chest becomes flat and Issei is in tears to see those breast flat. He uses his canons and defeats Rias and Gasper.

[RED IV]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Issei vs Rias

Spoiler:

I found more spoilers. The battle between Rias and Issei isn't long.

Issei confronts Rias at the roof of the Academy building where she is waiting for him and they are reminiscing about the past. Rias says She's glad she fell in love with Issei. And tells Gasper "now". Gasper's shadow creeps up and surrounds Rias body as she goes into Balor form.

Issei says you are a female so you should know I have the advantage and uses dress break. The Darkness around Rias falls apart but suddenly attaches itself back to Rias body.

Rias says your dressbreak is useless as I have thought of a way to deal with it. As Issei thinks of a way to deal with Rias, her eyes starts to glow red and Issei immediately retreats and fly in the sky as Rias launches as massive attack of POD at that that could have defeated him.

Issei suddenly remembers what Indra said, "Do you know the difference between you and Rias? Rias Gremory is strong even without you but you do not do well without Ravel."

Issei thought of a strategy. Issei uses dressbreak on Rias. Rias says It's useless but Issei took the opportunity to use his tail to attach to Rias. He uses the Breast Canon by sucking the power out of Rias breast. Rias breast energy is being sucked away and she can't focus on using her POD. Rias chest becomes flat and Issei is in tears to see those breast flat. He uses his canons and defeats Rias and Gasper.

Imagine if she stayed that way lol

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by Blazor 98

Spoiler:

Issei defeats Rias using Infinity Blaster+Breast Cannon by using Rias breast

Spoiler for Figures:

I just knew he was going to end up using her breast to his advantage.

Mainly because I remembered what happened with the brave saints, and that Rias's breast will always be on Issei's side.

[syzorst]

Rias vs Grayfia

Spoiler:

Rias vs Grayfia

Rias (Balor form) and Kiba approaches Issei and Grayfia. Rias launches an attack at Grayfia while Kiba fights Issei. She summons a black beast to which Grayfia dodges and that have a beam clash. Because Rias strength is above Maou class, she overpowers Grayfia's attack. Rias is trying to extend the state of mass of POD that she acquired from her training, while also taking into account that she cannot stay in Balor form for long as she has a time limit and it would be fatal if she stays in it too long.

Grayfia's dodges it and that go at it. As they are fighting Rias remembers that during their stay together, Grayfia's mood has been uneasy ever since she joined the tournament. She knows that Grayfia has been feeling lonely ever since Sirzech was gone. As this goes on Rias POD overwhelmes Grayfia demonic power but stops her attack using time stop. Rias says that Issei is fighting hard for his own dream. After several defeats and battles, he found something and became a high Class devil.

Grayfia says "I'm just... I'm just...." Grayfia sends her unstable demonic power to block Rias attack. They have a another clash between demonic power.

Rias says "Please don't be imprisoned in the pain of Queen Lucifer. Maybe my parents can't replace Onii-sama but we are still a family"

Grayfia's mask breaks from the clash and burst into tears. "I'm just.... I'm just..."

Rias POD engulfs Grayfia and she retires.

[Jedsada]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Issei vs Rias

Spoiler:

I found more spoilers. The battle between Rias and Issei isn't long.

Issei confronts Rias at the roof of the Academy building where she is waiting for him and they are reminiscing about the past. Rias says She's glad she fell in love with Issei. And tells Gasper "now". Gasper's shadow creeps up and surrounds Rias body as she goes into Balor form.

Issei says you are a female so you should know I have the advantage and uses dress break. The Darkness around Rias falls apart but suddenly attaches itself back to Rias body.

Rias says your dressbreak is useless as I have thought of a way to deal with it. As Issei thinks of a way to deal with Rias, her eyes starts to glow red and Issei immediately retreats and fly in the sky as Rias launches as massive attack of POD at that that could have defeated him.

Issei suddenly remembers what Indra said, "Do you know the difference between you and Rias? Rias Gremory is strong even without you but you do not do well without Ravel."

Issei thought of a strategy. Issei uses dressbreak on Rias. Rias says It's useless but Issei took the opportunity to use his tail to attach to Rias. He uses the Breast Canon by sucking the power out of Rias breast. Rias breast energy is being sucked away and she can't focus on using her POD. Rias chest becomes flat and Issei is in tears to see those breast flat. He uses his canons and defeats Rias and Gasper.

Really, women are not Issei's opponent. Comparing with previous opponents (Baraqiel, Dulio, Saji, Vidar), this is a much more easier.

P.S. Though Rias is still a better tactician, I think Issei is superior when it comes to thinking on feet. Even when his signature move, Dress Break, is countered, he can adapt to the situation and find a way to overcome obstacles quickly. By contrast, Rias is rather slow to respond an unexpected situation which she hasn't prepared for.

[Palmito]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Issei vs Rias

Spoiler:

I found more spoilers. The battle between Rias and Issei isn't long.

Issei confronts Rias at the roof of the Academy building where she is waiting for him and they are reminiscing about the past. Rias says She's glad she fell in love with Issei. And tells Gasper "now". Gasper's shadow creeps up and surrounds Rias body as she goes into Balor form.

Issei says you are a female so you should know I have the advantage and uses dress break. The Darkness around Rias falls apart but suddenly attaches itself back to Rias body.

Rias says your dressbreak is useless as I have thought of a way to deal with it. As Issei thinks of a way to deal with Rias, her eyes starts to glow red and Issei immediately retreats and fly in the sky as Rias launches as massive attack of POD at that that could have defeated him.

Issei suddenly remembers what Indra said, "Do you know the difference between you and Rias? Rias Gremory is strong even without you but you do not do well without Ravel."

Issei thought of a strategy. Issei uses dressbreak on Rias. Rias says It's useless but Issei took the opportunity to use his tail to attach to Rias. He uses the Breast Canon by sucking the power out of Rias breast. Rias breast energy is being sucked away and she can't focus on using her POD. Rias chest becomes flat and Issei is in tears to see those breast flat. He uses his canons and defeats Rias and Gasper.

I did not understand the meaning in this comparison that Indra did. Rias is relying on Gasper just like Issei rely on Ravel, right? Is not that what a team is? The strategist needs the warrior to fight the enemy, the warrior needs the healer to heal him during or after the battle, etc. Not everyone is good in all things, what is the problem in Issei relying on Ravel's strategies, since her position in the team is strategist?

[B214]

Originally Posted by Palmito

I did not understand the meaning in this comparison that Indra did. Rias is relying on Gasper just like Issei rely on Ravel, right? Is not that what a team is? The strategist needs the warrior to fight the enemy, the warrior needs the healer to heal him during or after the battle, etc. Not everyone is good in all things, what is the problem in Issei relying on Ravel's strategies, since her position in the team is strategist?

Trust and reliant is different though. Gasper trust Rias and thrives to be her strength. Ravel believes in Ise's power and tries to pull it out in the way she believes it fitting.

[Palmito]

Originally Posted by B214

Trust and reliant is different though. Gasper trust Rias and thrives to be her strength. Ravel believes in Ise's power and tries to pull it out in the way she believes it fitting.

And what does this have to do with what I said?

[Emperor of D.]

@Pamito has a point. Issei didn't overcome his reliance on Ravel to win this. Issei defeated Rias with quick thinking which is something he's done plenty of times in the past. Although from the looks of the battle, he wasn't even losing. Sure, his dress break was useless but he couldn't fight her normally?