Oh boy; lol Touma is acting more and more like a chessmaster! lol Kamisato is going along with the plan they set up. Salome might/is some nasty girl. Shit is going down this Volume.
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“No, I don’t get it at all. I may claim to ‘understand’ Othinus, but I only know her as a girl. I don’t understand anything when it comes to her being a Magic God.” - Touma NT13
So far this voulme have took place over Dec.4-5 so Kamachi may not do anything which Krampus because Dec.5 is call Krampus Night and Dec.6 is call St. Nicholas Day.
Touma at this rate is going to have to beat Mikoto up before this Story Arc is over.
Let me address the point about Touma neglecting Mikoto. Please explain to me how he can reasonably avoided this. The novel insinuates that what is happening to Mikoto is a result of a lack of communication between Mikoto and Touma.
Someone said that this emotional trauma is caused by Touma keeping Mikoto at an arm's distance. But in fact, it's the exact opposite. It's caused by Mikoto half-heartedly trying to keep Touma within arm's length. With the exception of the Sister's Arc, every unanswered question she has is a result of her trying to barge into Touma's life. Go on an arc-by-arc basis and you can see exactly this. She has become way too dependent on Touma and as such is trying to keep within an arm's reach of him.
Touma is completely unaware of this despite it happening right within his sight but at the same time, he has no opportunity to be aware of this at all. This is not the kind of thing that could ever have been solved by Touma completely opening up to Mikoto. Even if it was, opening up to someone is not something people easily do. People have mental barriers that prevent them from divulging everything. At the same time, this isn't the kind of thing that one would easily just talk about. I highly doubt that Touma would talk about everything that has happened to him unless he was prompted to. This is pretty damn evident throughout the novels. Meanwhile, this is where Mikoto would come in. She could get him to start talking simply by asking. Yet, she doesn't. Time after time, she doesn't. She simply goes on in this half-assed attempt hoping that she can get answers without putting anything forward and it's incredibly hypocritical considering how she has acted before.
TL;DR: This is her problem and hers alone. There is nothing Touma could have done to prevent this on his own.
Misaka had yet to reach Misaki's level. I do hope to see Misaki soon again. I miss her.
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“No, I don’t get it at all. I may claim to ‘understand’ Othinus, but I only know her as a girl. I don’t understand anything when it comes to her being a Magic God.” - Touma NT13
Let me address the point about Touma neglecting Mikoto. Please explain to me how he can reasonably avoided this. The novel insinuates that what is happening to Mikoto is a result of a lack of communication between Mikoto and Touma.
Someone said that this emotional trauma is caused by Touma keeping Mikoto at an arm's distance. But in fact, it's the exact opposite. It's caused by Mikoto half-heartedly trying to keep Touma within arm's length. With the exception of the Sister's Arc, every unanswered question she has is a result of her trying to barge into Touma's life. Go on an arc-by-arc basis and you can see exactly this. She has become way too dependent on Touma and as such is trying to keep within an arm's reach of him.
Touma is completely unaware of this despite it happening right within his sight but at the same time, he has no opportunity to be aware of this at all. This is not the kind of thing that could ever have been solved by Touma completely opening up to Mikoto. Even if it was, opening up to someone is not something people easily do. People have mental barriers that prevent them from divulging everything. At the same time, this isn't the kind of thing that one would easily just talk about. I highly doubt that Touma would talk about everything that has happened to him unless he was prompted to. This is pretty damn evident throughout the novels. Meanwhile, this is where Mikoto would come in. She could get him to start talking simply by asking. Yet, she doesn't. Time after time, she doesn't. She simply goes on in this half-assed attempt hoping that she can get answers without putting anything forward and it's incredibly hypocritical considering how she has acted before.
TL;DR: This is her problem and hers alone. There is nothing Touma could have done to prevent this on his own.
I don't think her current predicament could have been avoided even with open communication lines. Her problem is the belief that she can't stand on the same stage as Touma due to her lack of power compared to the enemy he faces, whether this is true or not is debatable. Would she really cheer up if she knew his enemies were gods and her powers wouldn't have meant anything to begin with? As far as she knows, her level 5 powers are all she brings to the table. At least, that's how I see it. Her upcoming possession of AAA draws a parallel to ZW, Kamachi's other work. She's attempting to overcome the monsters Touma faces by becoming an even bigger monster.
Oh damn Touma might want to get revenge again just like how he and thor did before.
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“No, I don’t get it at all. I may claim to ‘understand’ Othinus, but I only know her as a girl. I don’t understand anything when it comes to her being a Magic God.” - Touma NT13
TL;DR: This is her problem and hers alone. There is nothing Touma could have done to prevent this on his own.
He could have pushed her away at any time, but it would be out of character for Touma the Harem Accepter.
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She's attempting to overcome the monsters Touma faces by becoming an even bigger monster.
The many possible routes this could take (Mikoto meeting a despair-driven death, getting the biggest IDTI of her life, and actually succeeding what getting what she wants, among others) makes me wonder what exactly is Kamachi planning for Mikoto.
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Spoiler for Accelerator vs Salome [Start of the battle]:
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She pointed at Accelerator.
No, at the plastic bag in his hand.
“I can understand the milk and chocolate. The rubber ducky and shampoo hat might just be your idea of a fun bath time. …But there’s just no way your feet would fit in those tiny shoes, don’tcha think? In that case, might their owner be somewhere nearb-…”
Before she could finish speaking, Salome’s pointer finger and the arm attached to it were gone.
He had not done anything special.
He had simply approached her, simply grabbed her arm, and simply torn it off.
One does not simply target Accelerator's loli to start a war.
The story could have ended if Accelerator was angry enough to literally dismantle her.
She's a bit lucky for that.
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Chapter 3: Conversion, or a Change of Viewpoint — Not_Fiend, Not_Enemy. Parts 1-4
It would be too out of character to push Mikoto out of the way, though given how persistent she gets when she forces her way in, I highly doubt he'd be able to.
Spoiler for Reactions:
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“Ohhhhhh!! Index’s biting had already loosened the roots of Kamijou-san’s hair and now the Kamisato panic delivered the finishing blow!? This can’t be happening! I’m only in my teens! I’m still young! I shouldn’t have to worry about my scalp! Help me, god! Help me, Othinus!!”
At least it ain't a receding hairline...
Though I wonder why she always bites the head. Seems like it'd be...uncomfortable on Index's mouth, ya know?
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She could only be so bold in the open space thanks to the many dolls that had been forced onto Kamijou like a curse after the previous day’s rock-paper-scissors tournament. They were already being destroyed as the calico cat’s playmates, so they had been bitten, torn, and strewn about with white stuffing scattered everywhere.
Well, at least he found some use for them. Plus, that means that Othinus escapes the clutches of Sphinx.
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“He’s afraid of the Magic Gods.” Kamijou grabbed an asparagus with his chopsticks. “He knows he can defeat them with World Rejecter, but that’s all he knows. That means he doesn’t know if he can defeat them without World Rejecter. And harming the girls around him is the one thing he wants to avoid the most. That’s actually the source of his motivation to attack the Magic Gods, so he won’t compromise there. That means it would be a problem if he sent them on a mission and they never came back.”
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“However they get there, Kamisato will definitely show up for the finishing blow. I just have to pay attention to what he’s doing at school.”
“We don’t know where he gets his information. He might know I’ve lost my power as a Magic God.”
“He probably does,” agreed Kamijou. “But he’s still afraid of the Magic Gods. They’re the source of all of this and they’ve taken a large chunk out of his heart. He will conclude that the Magic Gods’ power and influence still exists in this world until he loses the right hand that makes him special…or that he thinks does. Even if he’s been given a logical explanation and is 99.9% convinced that you’ve lost your power, he’ll still be cautious when it comes to you. And if he cares about those girls as much as he claims to, he won’t send them on a mission like that. He will wait until he can make the move himself. It’s not a logical issue. It’s just like someone checking again and again to make sure the door is locked. He understands, but he’s still afraid.”
Crafty Kami-yan
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It was not something there that scared him. It was the opposite. Something was not there. There was something he could not see or understand. Misaka Mikoto was smiling and speaking, but the heart and inner thoughts behind it were not reaching him.
She's already broken. She's definitely past the point of no return.
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“Well, I have to go this way. I want to stop by the office before classes start. I’m hoping it isn’t too late to change my elective gym selection for the third term.”
She sounded entirely casual.
And yet he felt like he shared nothing with this person.
“The standard would be arresting techniques, aikido, self-defense, or fencing to focus on my Iron Sand Sword, but if I want to go more the Railgun route, maybe sharpshooting or archery would be better. Well, I guess anything’s fine as long as it’s useful.”
“Did…something happen?”
He asked his question far too late.
“Yes.”
Mikoto did not say what it was.
She simply smiled and gave her answer.
Even Touma's realized there's something off about her.
Though I guess this is Mikoto throwing the miscommunication right back at him...how...childish.
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“That’s not the issue. This is just as bad as eating in the bathroom. Maybe I should tell that Akikawa girl about this…”
“Eeek! Eeeeeeek!! Um, Mie-chan is really scary when she’s mad. She piles up a bunch of arguments like a falling block puzzle and it feels like they’re crushing you!”
Geez...Mie feels more like a mother than a kouhai...
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“From your point of view, I guess she would be a member of the Kamisato Faction. She’s also my little sister. We’re not blood-related, though.” Kamisato gave a gentle sigh. “But she’s completely out of control. No matter what I say or how many people try to stop her, she will spread destruction without end once she’s taken action. Oh, dammit. This is why we used some electrodes to cut off her neurotransmitters and keep her brainwaves below a functional level. As long as she can be kept below the critical point where she can infinitely work herself up with her own words, you can speak with her normally.”
So the only way to contain her is to turn her into Patrick Star.
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She had played an important role in saving Patricia Birdway, so she had left a stronger impression than the rest of the Kamisato Faction.
She also had my favorite design so she left the strongest impression on me.
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“Last night, she had a run-in with Salome and her body was sliced in two.”
He said it so readily.
An extreme oddity enveloped everything.
“…”
“Fortunately, her power allowed her to survive. …But for anyone but Claire, that would have been a one-way ticket to the afterlife. And I’m not saying Salome only did that because it was Claire. She would do the exact same thing to Ellen, Elza, or anyone else who stood in her way.”
So, she got Frenda'd and lived.
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“It’s essentially the same. We both have our own faction and she’s trying to make yours crumble away so I can win. And instead of taking out you at the top, she’s focusing on the defenseless friends surrounding you. It isn’t quite the same as making an example out of a punished criminal, but once she devours a few of them, she thinks your base will crumble away and your circle of friends will scatter. So she won’t stop preying on them until they do scatter. Do you get the situation now?”
That's a cruel method...
Damn...she's crazy.
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To be blunt, Kamisato was not a trustworthy person, but Kamijou felt this at least was not a lie. He knew Kamisato would never sacrifice any of the girls around him. No matter the reason, even if that was the shortest route to his goal, and even if Claire herself offered to slice her belly open. That “normal high school boy” would never allow it.
Touma can be really manipulative when he wants to be.
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“That’s exactly why I need to do this. I don’t want any of those girls to end up a perpetrator or a victim. I just want to return this goddamn convenient harem.”
Aww. He does care.
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“I’d like to believe they’re marshmallow-like creatures full of compassion and kindness, but it doesn’t sound like we have time for that now.”
So, not Mikoto.
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“Why not ask a classmate to answer the roll call for you?”
A miniature universe exploded inside Kamijou Touma.
He's never thought of this.
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Her target had white hair and red eyes. One hand held a cane with a modern design and the other held a plastic bag from a drug store. He reminded Salome of white asparagus. No one could end up like that without being thrown into a uniquely arranged environment.
Acclerator...god, it feels like it's been forever since we've seen him...though not as long as it has been since we've seen Itsuwa....
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“I can understand the milk and chocolate. The rubber ducky and shampoo hat might just be your idea of a fun bath time. …But there’s just no way your feet would fit in those tiny shoes, don’tcha think? In that case, might their owner be somewhere nearb-…”
Oh no, you didn't.
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“See, what matters for a sacrifice is how important it is to the person offering it. If you had such a great season that you have way more food than you could ever eat, then rice or fish isn’t gonna count as a sacrifice. And some stranger you abduct won’t work as a living sacrifice. Do you know anything about Voodoo rituals? When they sell their soul to the devil, once a year they have to offer up someone who it pains them to sacrifice: a family member, a lover, a beloved teacher, etc. But once they run out of people, they’ve gotta pay with their own life. This is the same. Only the External Offering just wasn’t quiiiiite enough for peace of mind as a mass murderer. I needed to offer up something even more precious…and that’s where the Internal Offering comes in. In other words, I gave my own body to my god.”
In other words, she can just switch out body parts as necessary.
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“But just as my data said, your trigger is the one called Last Order. I’m not trying to provoke you this time. I’m completely serious. Isn’t it exhausting living like that? No matter who or what you protect, it won’t wipe your history clean. Hanging around good people, heroes, and holy women isn’t going to make you any of those things. You’ve gotta understand that. You think going to a concert makes you one with the idol? You think wearing a limited edition happi coat and waving fans around links your hearts together? Did you know the performer can’t even see the audience’s faces in the darkness created by the bright lights shining on the stage? That’s exactly the position you’re in, don’tcha think?”
“…I know that.”
“But if you’re happy clinging to the announcement of a new song and going to every last performance of the national tour, from Hokkaido in the north to Okinawa in the south, then I won’t stop you.”
“I know that, I know that, I know that, but it still pulls the trigger.”
Damn, she's really eating into Accelerator. I guess even his own affirmations of self-worth aren't going to stand easily.
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“Remember what I said? Salome’s goal is to guide my faction to victory. So we just have to make sure you, the enemy king, die on camera. Do that, and her reason to fight will naturally vanish. Then you don’t have to worry about any of your friends dying. And since it isn’t an act, there’s no risk of Salome not being fooled and remaining out of our control. Isn’t that just a wonderfully perfect solution?”
I honestly can't tell if he's being serious or this is part of the act...
Well, I honestly can't tell if this is all part of an act or if he's dead serious...
“I did get into it, but all I found was a virtual Doberman figurine, a collection of a Great Pyrenees links, a digital handshake ticket for a District 15 Tosa idol, and data for a St. Bernard body pillow that could be ordered with a single click. Yeah, so I thought digging any deeper would be a violation of romance…”
What the f*ck Noukan?
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The next morning, Kamijou Touma was in for a shock as soon as he woke up in the bathtub.
“…It’s falling out.”
Only after speaking the words did a chill cover his entire body.
“My hair is falling out!!”
It had not hit him until now, but just how much stressful was this new life? Not that it was all that surprising when he shared a school building with a monster like Kamisato Kakeru and his World Rejecter and the boy could attack at any time.
I'm surprised this is only being mentioned now .
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“Do you not know how frightening girls can be?”
“I’d like to believe they’re marshmallow-like creatures full of compassion and kindness, but it doesn’t sound like we have time for that now.”
A useless question to ask someone who's been tortured by a girl for a billion years firsthand.
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“What do I do? Really, what do I do about my attendance!? We’re not even talking about how many days I have left! I’m already in the negative territory where it’s hard to see how I can make up for it no matter how hard I try! So what in the world do I do!?”
“Hmm.”
Kamisato Kakeru did not give it much thought.
He simply gave an idea.
“Why not ask a classmate to answer the roll call for you?”
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A miniature universe exploded inside Kamijou Touma.
Oh yeah, that's also an option, huh? I gotta admit, this method saved me a number of times.
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“I’m planning a bit of an event. I want to check the wiring, so I need to visit the faculty room. It’s times like this when I’m glad I carry figurine repair putty with me wherever I go. If the tool doesn’t work, I might need a spare key.”
Why are you even carrying something like that?
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“Accelerator-chan☆ …Your real name is surprisingly cute.”
Oh shit
Chapter 3 so far felt...heavy... With all these things going around, this is definitely the part in the volume where things finally start to get crazy.
Anyway, I can't say I didn't see that twist coming in part 4. Touma shouldn't have trusted Kakeru so readily. That guy's crazy. Seeing how much he understands Kakeru's thinking in the first part, he should have remained more vigilant instead of thinking the guy would just quietly pretend to get beaten up. Though Kakeru is still injured so he'll pretty much lose to Touma in a 1v1 normal fistfight. I want to see how Touma gets himself out of that one. Also, looks like the spoiler about Touma having mostly SoL this volume is untrue.
By the way, I find it interesting that Touma immediately noticed that something's off with Mikoto. Girl's gone pretty crazy with all that "as long as it's useful" muttering. Just as some have said, Mikoto is too obsessed with "catching up" or standing in the same field as Touma. It's understandable that she doesn't just want to sit around and be protected, but all she's done so far is get herself in more danger by butting her head in things unrelated to her all because she doesn't want to lose sight of Touma's back. Again, understandable but pretty stupid.
She doesn't really have to "catch up" to him in any way, as far as I can see. Chasing him only brings more trouble to him and to herself. Just as High Priest has said, Mikoto is a burden as she is. Instead of trying to fight in the same field as him, she should just do what she is able to in the place she's standing on at the moment. We've seen that Touma tend to keep things to himself, but that's because he doesn't want to involve those who shouldn't get involved. He doesn't unnecessarily involve others unless they are related in some way to the problem or unless he's confronted about it.
In a sense, Touma is like a King in chess. He can technically move anywhere he wants, but is limited of what he can do because of the abilities he has. The best he can do is move accordingly to the situation and use what he has to achieve the best outcome possible despite having so little range of movement. Meanwhile, Mikoto is like a bishop. Great range that comes with her strong and versatile ability as a Level 5 Electromaster, but little freedom in the grand scheme of things. Assuming that she''s on a white tile, what she wants is to be able to stand on the black tile; to essentialy be a queen with great range and freedom. She wants to be able to be able to step on the black tile like the King and likewise be able to move in all directions--something which is impossible for she is a bishop on a white tile who can only move diagonally on other white tiles. She wants to break the rules and "stand on the same stage" as the King instead of doing what she does best which is moving along the diagonal lane of white tiles.
The point is, Mikoto is "breaking the rules" by trying to "stand on the black tile". The moment she does exactly that, she becomes something else than a bishop. Something which is not like anything. It can be argued that she'd be like a queen, but she's not. She's a bishop and the only way to fix things once that happens is to either bring her back to being a bishop, or by removing her from the game, along with her team or maybe even the game itself. Having Mikoto step on the black tile will only bring trouble, and I am very much excited to see how the inevitable anomaly is dealt with.
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Well, I honestly can't tell if this is all part of an act or if he's dead serious...
Considering his resignation over the actions of his faction members, it's more likely that he stopped giving a rat's ass over Salome's actions. "Just let her do what she wants. Give her everything she needs to accomplish her objective."
EDIT: It's a different kind of irresponsibility compared to Touma's, but a show or irresponsibility nonetheless.
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I forgot to mention when I read the BTL for Chapter 2 but...
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“I did get into it, but all I found was a virtual Doberman figurine, a collection of a Great Pyrenees links, a digital handshake ticket for a District 15 Tosa idol, and data for a St. Bernard body pillow that could be ordered with a single click. Yeah, so I thought digging any deeper would be a violation of romance…”
You think going to a concert makes you one with the idol?
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“But if you’re happy clinging to the announcement of a new song and going to every last performance of the national tour, from Hokkaido in the north to Okinawa in the south, then I won’t stop you.”
Misaka has snapped. I get that she wants to stand on the same stage as Touma, but she has pretty much based all her self worth on that wish. Now it seems like she is willing to throw away everything that makes her who she is, all just so she can stand beside him.
Of all people she, as magician should know that belief in idols combined with hard wirk CAN change human, im sure people who are with literal saints have a higher and easier chance becoming close to one themselfes instead of people who are hanging areound drug adficts and criminals :/
Btw, am i the only one who thought accels behavior was strange? I guess it required him to be like that otherwise plot wouldnt happen but usually he doesnt rip a arm off for people mentioning the possible existence of LO i would say the move-point-girl did more stuff that can anger him still got less punishment and this whole stuff happened with a supposedly more aggressive accel or nitrogen-spear-girl :/
Is it me, or is this volume simply the best thing ever?
I'm joking, but I'm genuinely impressed
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Rage is not unlike a blade.
Frequent use will make it dull and brittle; it's ill sheen reflecting the wielder's lost virtues and strength. Thus comes the saying that the ire of the calm, kind and gentle forges with vengful fire a fearsome bladed edge. Pray for those whose image reflects off it, for it may only stop through reconcilatory waters or icy voids of the end.
i would say the move-point-girl did more stuff that can anger him still got less punishment and this whole stuff happened with a supposedly more aggressive accel 
