Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Pt. 2 Rebirth

[Galaxian]

Originally Posted by Akashin

To be fair, random as they tend to be, I can't think of a KH name that didn't suit it (the "Distance" in 3D was a bit of a stretch, though).

I just picture that staff meeting with Nomura standing by the door shouting: "No one is allow to leave until we think of another word that starts with D!".

[Terrestrial Dream]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

NO! They can change any other thing, for all I care the whole combat system can be completely replaced, as long as they don't remove that whole materia system including the yellow and escapcially the blue ones! Instead of removing things they should EXPAND it, like keeping the blue combination materia, but also making it possible for others to somehow be compatible, like combining Ifrit with fire magic giving bonus damage to the fire magic, which may even motivate someone to use two slots for fire magic materia, so he can combine it both with Ifrit and the "all cast" blue materia. Or perhaps even triple combination slots instead of just dual combination.

That would be interesting as well. Perhaps create another types of materia that can only be used by certain characters. Usually instead of nerfing, buffing things can be more fun.

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I can respect what they were going with originally in FF7. Deciding to go full customization. That does leave the characters basically interchangeable, but whether that's good or bad is a matter of taste.

I think going with those changes is too compromising. Getting rid of the point that the materia customization gave you without going far enough to making everyone unique.

Curious what they end up doing regardless with the leveling and materia. Considering how materia is so important to the plot do need to be careful how you change it's application.

That is true as well, customizable characters were rather interesting, but I would like to see bigger differences not just limit breaks.

Maybe not just materia, but expanding equipment systems can be other possibility.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by Freeter

Remake is fine enough. We don't need some gaudy subtitle like "Lightning Returns" or "All the Bravest".

What's wrong with Lightening returns? It's straight and to the point.

[Kyero Fox]

Originally Posted by the one above all

What's wrong with Lightening returns? It's straight and to the point.

And lets you know why it sucks.


Hehe no offence to any fans.

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by the one above all

What's wrong with Lightening returns? It's straight and to the point.

Should have been called Cashgrab Returns: Cosplay edition.

[Draco Spirit]

I rather enjoyed it!

One thing I hope they rebalanced is some of the limit breaks. Tifa for example certainly lags behind latter.

[Ultragunner]

"Final Fantasy VII - The Promised Fate"

Now that's a good title for the remake IMO

[shadow1296]

how about "Final Fantasy VII: the 20th Anniversary Edition" since we probably won't have a completed copy of he game till 2017 and that's the year of its 20th anniversary

[Tong]

Lol you're all pretty optimistic if you think FF7 Remake will be completed in 2017.
Let's not forget FF15 (FF 13 Versus) is almost a decade old.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Tong

Let's not forget FF15 (FF 13 Versus) is almost a decade old.

XV is also an entirely new game, which this is not.

[Tong]

It's not just a remake from an old game, they will have to make it from scratch. So it's the same amount of work of creating a new game.

[Seafoam]

Let's not forget how Versus XIII was repeatedly kicked to the curb in favor of all the damn XIII sequels.

[shadow1296]

Originally Posted by Obey Pyro

Let's not forget how Versus XIII was repeatedly kicked to the curb in favor of all the damn XIII sequels.

not really nomura wasn't the director of the XIII sequals like he was for the start of versus, it was more like the XIII sequals were made because nomura decided to work on a bunch of Kh spinoff and not his part of the nova chrysallis which was versus, but that can cause a whole mess of arguements

[monster]

Originally Posted by Tong

It's not just a remake from an old game, they will have to make it from scratch. So it's the same amount of work of creating a new game.

No, it is not, because with XV, they still have to spend development time on all parts of the game, like the story, the characters, the music, etc. With VII, they have most of these. All they have to do is remake what they have and change/add/subtract what they want.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by monster

No, it is not, because with XV, they still have to spend development time on all parts of the game, like the story, the characters, the music, etc. With VII, they have most of these. All they have to do is remake what they have and change/add/subtract what they want.

That's not how it works. Even if they had the source code, it's 17+ year old game. Even with the brainstorming about the setting and characters done, they have to design an entirely new graphics engine to bring any of those concepts to life. The graphics engine is what translates a piece of hardware into the software and brings the game to life.

Then after they finish creating the graphics engine, they have to redesign all the towns, fields, etc. that it basically amounts to creating a new game. The original game's towns and dungeons were essentially pre-rendered backgrounds with little interactivity. It should be obvious that they can't reuse any of those assets in the remake.

There is absolutely nothing of real substance from the original game that can be brought over to the remake to "save time". Basic design concepts don't take development - bringing those concepts to life, and making them work is what takes time.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

That's not how it works. Even if they had the source code, it's 17+ year old game. Even with the brainstorming about the setting and characters done, they have to design an entirely new graphics engine to bring any of those concepts to life. The graphics engine is what translates a piece of hardware into the software and brings the game to life.

Then after they finish creating the graphics engine, they have to redesign all the towns, fields, etc. that it basically amounts to creating a new game. The original game's towns and dungeons were essentially pre-rendered backgrounds with little interactivity. It should be obvious that they can't reuse any of those assets in the remake.

There is absolutely nothing of real substance from the original game that can be brought over to the remake to "save time". Basic design concepts don't take development - bringing those concepts to life, and making them work is what takes time.

I wasn't talking about reusing the original source assets. I even said they have to "remake" what they already have.

It still cuts down on the development time when they already have an idea in mind. With XV, they literally have to create everything from scratch. With the remake of VII, they just have to execute it from scratch, aside from anything new that they want to add/change.

[Sacredus]

Originally Posted by Tong

Lol you're all pretty optimistic if you think FF7 Remake will be completed in 2017.
Let's not forget FF15 (FF 13 Versus) is almost a decade old.

IMO it's possible.
Final Fantasy 7 remake was underway before the PS4 PC port was announced

How the new, slightly darker aesthetic sits with some of the crazier elements of the original game remains to be seen, but it seems they'll be intact. Can't wait to see the delicious sight of Cloud in a dress in glorious HD? "Please look forward to it," said Nomura as the interview came to a close.

What I want from this game:
1. Extended storyline
2. At least FF15 level of graphics
3. Random enconquers like in original
4. Real time combat - with option to pause and give orders to other characters
5. New game+ with option to resurrect Aeris - it would not affect gameplay too much and could lead to alternative ending

[Kafriel]

Aerith dying is one of the best moments in FF7 - it's what establishes Sephiroth as a villain. Forget about wanting to destroy the world with meteor, he kills Aerith! Having her survive in any way just lessens the impact of her death on Cloud and his subsequent transgression from cool to emo.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by monster

I wasn't talking about reusing the original source assets. I even said they have to "remake" what they already have.

It still cuts down on the development time when they already have an idea in mind. With XV, they literally have to create everything from scratch. With the remake of VII, they just have to execute it from scratch, aside from anything new that they want to add/change.

Maybe it saves you some time, but honestly it's not that much of a time saver. They may want to change part of the script to take into consideration what has been done after the original FF7, they may want to add entirely new scenes. They have to take time to go through it all and make those changes.

No one is going to say it will take the same amount of time as FF15, but it's still going to take a very long time to make this. You are making an entirely new game, just saving some time on a few things.

[Tong]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Aerith dying is one of the best moments in FF7 - it's what establishes Sephiroth as a villain.

I dunno about that... for me setting your hometown on fire and killing your beloved parents sounds worse.