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Old 2014-06-22, 20:08   Link #2381
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Advent Bay wasn't that bad, it was just a lot of tough enemies, there weren't any annoying gimmicks that I can recall.

As for some general advice, if you've got Marwen's Ring and Marwen's necklace, use them to level Leguna and Stone Golem to level 99, these two will help immensely.

Also, Phema Sluicegate has some secret areas that require both search and teleport to get to.
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Old 2014-06-22, 20:59   Link #2382
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In general, it takes a lot of deliberation in choosing equipment and your tenacity.

For the record I started off with Advent's Bay first haha. It was one hell of a ride from hell.
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Old 2014-06-23, 03:42   Link #2383
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There are accessories that allow you to resist instant death attacks, I know completing one of the extra maps will unlock it for you, unfortunately I forget which one.
You don't really need anti-death, actually.
You can snipe the archers with Serawi (she has Seal), and kill melees from range or with Ragsmuena/Stone Golem (they are immune to death).
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Old 2014-06-23, 06:27   Link #2384
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Which order will be recommended?
Still on Chapter 5 ^^
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Old 2014-06-23, 07:08   Link #2385
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I did Phema Mountain -> Mirage Forest -> Phema Sluicegate -> Valkyrie Falls (lost my saves before I could start Advent Bay).
Decided to start EX-s when I couldn't do Kohakuren's gauntlet map in the mine (ch. 9).
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Old 2014-06-23, 07:26   Link #2386
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You don't really need anti-death, actually.
You can snipe the archers with Serawi (she has Seal), and kill melees from range or with Ragsmuena/Stone Golem (they are immune to death).
Well of course you don't require to have it, it just doesn't hurt to know that the option exists.
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Old 2014-06-23, 08:26   Link #2387
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Reaper's Bane, that's the accessory you need for Anti-Death.

Trouble is, you have to clear the Phema Mountains for the recipe to be available. And one of the key ingredients - Electric Rock is mined from there. Default amount of that rock required is x3. So best get your Tools up to 100 and drop it to x1.

As you might have read before, Phema Mountains is one trippy place for search and mining because of those tricky barrier timings.

FYI the complete recipe for Reaper's Bane is - 1x Mole Bracelet, 3x Electric Rock, 5x Ghost Essences.
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Old 2014-06-23, 09:01   Link #2388
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Okay, thanks
on a side note, at around which chapter can you get Ful's Tear?
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Old 2014-06-23, 09:20   Link #2389
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You can access deeper mine maps when you get all secondary party members, so chapter 8, I think.
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Old 2014-06-23, 14:09   Link #2390
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^ That's correct and specifically, Yuidora Mine's EX Dungeon the "Untouchable Cage".

Don't miss the item when you search there.
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Old 2014-06-24, 06:50   Link #2391
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Which order will be recommended?
Still on Chapter 5 ^^
Personally I went Phema Sluicegates, Advent Bay, Mirage Forest, Phema Mountains and then Valkyrie Falls.

Of course, you'll need to wait a few chapters to get the necessary characters (Kohakuren, Ragsmuena and Gaptahl) to access 3 of the dungeons.
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Old 2014-06-24, 07:56   Link #2392
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Also allow me to chip in the difficulties faced in the respective EX dungeons.

Advent Bay is full of devastating angels and they have too much damage resistance + Intimidation. It is a very rough fight in there, with unique enemies and unique weapon drops on the first run.

Phema Sluicegates is a water map with changing water levels.

Mirage Forest is an FP-draining disaster, be prepared.

Phema Mountains needs your characters to be well grounded and able to fly.

Valkyrie Falls is a literal death sentence if you're unlucky.

Good luck! You will succeed with a bit of tenacity.
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Old 2014-06-24, 08:13   Link #2393
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Okay thanks, I was planning to get Ful's Tears and kill Mylen in her map to maximize Fiend Beads...guess I'll take some time to get her
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Old 2014-06-24, 08:23   Link #2394
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Okay, to expand on Cypherix' explanation:
Advent Bay - as explained. Also, the bosses drop powerful weapons and don't reappear on second visit, so don't miss them.
Phema Sluicegates - certain areas become flooded every few turns (Dive skill needed to move, no other effect). Tough enemies in general, but no tricks otherwise. Teleport required to access North and South parts, as well as the hidden areas.
Mirage Forest - very high movement cost (avoided with Flight or Teleport), all units with Earth resist below S or S+ (not sure which) lose 40 HP/SP/FS per turn. Most enemies have Prevail and/or Projectile Defense.
Phema Mountains - most areas require Flight or Grounded, all monsters have a high-range spell that delivers Charm (avoided with anti-Charm accessory, Wind resist X or Seal/Forcefield).
Valkyrie Falls - all enemies can inflict Death one way or another (skills and Vorpal Counters), several rooms have range-9 archers (with Death too) behind impassable ground. Avoided with anti-Death accessory, Seal/Forcefield, or superior range.

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Okay thanks, I was planning to get Ful's Tears and kill Mylen in her map to maximize Fiend Beads...guess I'll take some time to get her
Don't forget to get as many Devil Beads as you can from Asmodeus, You will need a lot of them.
BTW, Ful's Mull and Ful's Tears stack for 4 drops.
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Old 2014-06-24, 08:43   Link #2395
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Phema Mountains - most areas require Flight or Grounded, all monsters have a high-range spell that delivers Charm (avoided with anti-Charm accessory, Wind resist X or Seal/Forcefield).
Charm and a few other things.
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Old 2014-06-24, 10:01   Link #2396
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Charm and a few other things.
Everything else can be cured immediately.
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Old 2014-06-24, 13:11   Link #2397
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About those unreachable snipers at Valkyrie Falls, Serawi can learn Enhanced Battery from one of her armors. It's a 1-9 range skill.

Amongst others long range snipers with 1-9 range skills are Mylen, Eushully at Lv99. Leguna gets his at Lv70.
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Old 2014-06-24, 13:49   Link #2398
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Can anyone help me? I am missing the cg of leguna and his golem
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Old 2014-06-24, 14:18   Link #2399
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About those unreachable snipers at Valkyrie Falls, Serawi can learn Enhanced Battery from one of her armors. It's a 1-9 range skill.

Amongst others long range snipers with 1-9 range skills are Mylen, Eushully at Lv99. Leguna gets his at Lv70.
Emelita has range 5 rock attack, it works with the snipers too. Although she might need Anti-death + Projectile Defence to stay standing.

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Can anyone help me? I am missing the cg of leguna and his golem
They're all from Emelita's route, I think. Did you finish it?
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Old 2014-06-24, 14:21   Link #2400
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Yep. I just finish her route and i still miss 3 cgs
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