2014-05-06, 10:00 | Link #221 | |
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According to this description of that scene from volume 11, chapter 17: Spoiler for Volume 11, chapter 17:
I would say that it was a effect of more then a few emotional states going on at the same time, which overall combined into a state similar to a state where you drink too much. Basically, using Cocytus in combination with seeing the world through Tatsuya's eyes + having Tatsuya embrace her, caused a Miyuki overload |
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2014-05-06, 10:02 | Link #222 | |
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I guess I just misinterpreted your reply to Echizen, since he said "GD isn't a magic which can be beaten like that" and then you brought up Far Strike, as if it could be beaten with Far strike. My bad. Still, shouldn't this conversation and everyone taking part in it jump over to the Character Power's thread? We're officially not not making predictions for beyond the current volume anymore. |
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2014-05-06, 10:19 | Link #224 | |
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But, since this secret might also bring some change to Tatsuya's and Miyuki's relation ... it will most likely be revealed after the whole plot point related to Zhou and the Black Sage is resolved. |
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2014-05-06, 10:50 | Link #225 |
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Well, about that Yotsuba's sin thing...
Short of presenting new material, we've got several existing things about Tatsuya that are already possible. 1. His Artificial Calculation Area -- This only exists because of Mental Interference Magic. Since Miya was the source, it obviously can't be duplicated right now, but it's still human experimentation, a known taboo that can cause a family to lose its number (see: Ichihana family). 2. Flash Cast -- As a practitioner of this casting method, he's going to get some flack about it because it's a technique that's considered "too unethical for even the miltary to adopt." 3. His BS magic -- Even without the other abilities, Tatsuya personifies the living weapon that Magicians are viewed as. However, they didn't consider him a Magician, and after watching Ep 5 and looking over volume 1, I think his resentment about being made a Magician indicates that he didn't actually go willingly to the Artificial Calculation Area experiment table. I'm thinking all of those put together could collectively be the "Yotsuba's Sin" and the mention itself sounds like foreshadowing that this is all going to get out in the open at some point, maybe in Year 3. |
2014-05-06, 11:42 | Link #226 | |
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2- Flash cast on itself is not something awful. but the method used to store the activation sequences in to the user mind was deemed "too unethical for even the miltary to adopt." 3- pretty much its true But over all, because of the human experiment(1), his side effects from it (this includes being very proficient in flash cast, among other things)(2) and because of his innate magic (3) i agree with you, this could be the "yotsuba sin" mitsugu talks about. But again this could be mitsugu's personal opinion, we never seen maya refer to him as the "sin", refer to him as a monster(in a metaphoric way, because of his tremendous power ) yes, but she never said anything like a sin or and existence that should've never existed or anything like that. Actually only mitsugu expressed that opinion about him from the yotsuba members we seen so far. Actually is very confusing, opinions about tatsuya re all over the place inside the yotsuba, Maya certainly recognizes his power as a magician and she also doesn`t really treat him differently from the rest of the yotsuba, kuroba twins definitely see him as a great magician and respect and treat him like a normal human, hayama thinks he is one of the best magicians his seen in his life, mitsugu subordinates respects him and addresses him with honorifics, but on the other hand aoki treats him like a "fake magicians" with all the bells and whistles and mitsugu thinks his the greatest sin the clan has committed. New topic: I just thought of something, next volume Ancient City Insurrection i think is gonna take place in kyoto, during the Thesis Competition. We know the competition is either held in yokohama or kyoto because in this city's The magic association have branches. I think the black sage and his lapdog Zhou along side their underlings will attack the competition again only this time yotsuba will be directly involved in the conflict and i also think some of tatsuya secrets are gonna come out during this battle, like his decomposition and his yotsuba connection. |
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2014-05-06, 13:40 | Link #228 | |
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Man i was just making a theory before, but the theory is incomplete because we don`t know the whole yotsuba clan, unless we see the rest of the members of the yotsuba or get some confirmation that the yotsuba and kuroba families are the only two families in the clan my argument is incomplete. |
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2014-05-06, 13:57 | Link #229 |
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Actually what If you are overthinking things? What If this sin talk is related to the way he casts his sistematic magic. I don t think it is normal that he can cast directly magic sequences for simple magics... And the only information we have about his limitations regarding this is when he is telling a lie in the first vol. Maybe when he is unsealed this ability increases for example
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2014-05-06, 14:06 | Link #230 | ||
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For example, if you think of Mitsugu as a supremely unreasonable fellow who would rather lose an arm than get help from Tatsuya, than as Rava said, it could be one of these 3 things. Quote:
But Mitsugu is also the Kuroba head of Yotsuba intelligence. It could be argued, a certain amount of level headedness is required for that Job. He's also described as being a Yotsuba to the very marrow of his bones, meaning there's probably not a lot that should rile him so much. So it's entirely possible, the Yotsuba Sin could be something we don't know yet. How you interpret it entirely depends on how you view Mitsugu himself. At least, that's what I think. |
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2014-05-06, 17:34 | Link #231 |
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The 101 doesn't want to hide Flash Cast. Only the Yotsuba want that because it is one of their secret techniques. I wonder how the thought controlled CAD will impact the standards, I have the impression they will reach FC comparable speed. A technique similar to Flash Cast called Spiritualisation also exists.
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2014-05-06, 21:28 | Link #234 | |
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I think that's not fair if only Fumiya and Ayako do the dirty job. |
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2014-05-06, 21:57 | Link #235 | |
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Even during the Yokohoma invasion she pretty much just followed orders. Would have been nice to see her step up and take some initiative. Sure she is a powerful mage but where are the leadership skills. Given her character development naming her heir is just semantics. Might as well name Tatsuya heir as he would be doing everything anyway. |
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2014-05-06, 22:04 | Link #236 |
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I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons that Maya does not order Miyuki to do dirty and dangerous jobs is because of Tatsuya. I mean, there's no way he would let Miyuki face danger and if she gets hurt or die in doing so, you guys can already imagine the result, right?
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2014-05-06, 22:07 | Link #237 | |
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2014-05-06, 22:14 | Link #238 | ||
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or something like that I suppose... Also giving Miyuki dangerous jobs is just screaming that she's a member of the Yotsuba. As Hayama puts it: Quote:
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2014-05-06, 22:27 | Link #239 | |
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That just means Miyuki is not competent at all. You should compare Miyuki with another heir candidate Fumiya. |
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2014-05-06, 22:48 | Link #240 | |
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I don't think you understand. It's stated right in the book. Fumiya or Ayako can't become the heir because of Maya and Miyuki. Because of that, keeping their status is not as important as keeping Miyuki's. Either way, why send Miyuki when Tatsuya will get the job done much better? Not like it matters, Yotsuba have time and time again has proved that they can keep someone's identity a secret if they wanted to. There's not really a point to worry or to start playing the blame game. |
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