2008-04-14, 14:38 | Link #222 |
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You guys are forgetting that Lelouch could simply end the show by Geassing an unlimited amount of assassins to depose the emperor. If that were the case though, there would be no real premise for the show. If the situation were as simplistic as what you see/face value, there wouldn't really be anything to discuss.
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2008-04-14, 14:43 | Link #223 | |
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2008-04-14, 14:47 | Link #224 | |
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According to Wikipedia, Suzaku's plan is to become the Knight of Ones since the Knight of Ones is assigned his own territory to control. Suzaku would choose Area 11 and then try to govern fairly. If Wikipedia is wrong, then Suzaku is still in the perfect position to increase his status. Suzaku has been trusted with the Emperor with knowledge about Geass and the Sword of Akasha that no other high-ranking knight or royal possesses. Suzaku could betray the Emperor with Schneizel and achieve even higher power in the Empire. |
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2008-04-14, 14:50 | Link #225 |
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Again, we have no confirmation on that whole Knight of One thing. And don't use Wikipedia as a source please.
I doubt Suzaku is going to do anything like betray the Emperor. I don't think he is quite that crafty.
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2008-04-14, 14:53 | Link #228 | |
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And as far as Suzaku is concerned, Area 11 can go ahead and rot. |
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2008-04-14, 14:57 | Link #230 | |
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Still, the rest of the world would like to have a little word with Suzaku about that. |
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2008-04-14, 15:00 | Link #231 | |
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I'm...not so sure of that anymore. "Order" seems to have taken predominance over "Japan" in his mind. |
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2008-04-14, 15:03 | Link #232 | |
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I imagine the scene Toc Toc Emperor: who is it? Assassins: .......we are....friends! Emperor: oh....ok! Come in! BANG BANG BANG |
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2008-04-14, 15:10 | Link #233 |
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Technically speaking, fire and ice cannot coexist; one must extinguish the other. As it stands, Lelouch's means of changing the world is prevalent over Suzaku's means. Suzaku's means requires order, whereas Lelouch's means are more effective when there is chaos. And chaos is easier to produce than it is to maintain order. Hence, for Suzaku to have any chance of following through on his objective, he must install order, and in doing so, he must end the chaos, which is brought about primarily by Zero/Lelouch. I too believe that Suzaku is a hypocrite, but not in everyone else's sense of the matter; Suzaku is a spoken hypocrite (he says things contrary to his own values/beliefs). However, what he is currently doing is NOT contrary to his belief, but a necessary prerequisite to his goal.
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2008-04-14, 15:45 | Link #234 |
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You know I actually liked Suzaku in season 1. I found his bright and optimistic ideals (albeit a bit naive) charming. He also had a friendly personality and the sound episodes featuring him and Lelouch were a riot. Now that part is gone and we have "ore" Suzaku I can't say I am to happy.
On one hand I can understand to why he turned out like this. A death of someone close to you can hit you pretty hard and when you find out it was your best friend who killed her it hits you harder. However if he says this is for Nunally's sake at any point now he either A) doesn't know Nunally very well or B) needs his head checked. I don't care how forgiving Nunally may seem but Suzaku selling out her brother may not be the easiest thing to forgive. I could be wrong though and Suzaku could just be a selfish prick-fighting only for his own ideals and revenge but I am willing to give him a benfit out a doubt here. |
2008-04-14, 16:03 | Link #236 |
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I suppose it would've been more forgivable had he axed Lelouch. (sarcasm)
Now I'm not saying that he couldn't have compromised, but if he had, he would've been more hypocritical than ever (though ironically, he would be less despised). To be honest, trading Lelouch in to the Emperor was the lesser of two evils. On one hand, he could have killed Lelouch and could still be in a position for an advancement in status (which would have certainly solidified his reputation as an asshole in my book), and on the other, he proceeds with the deal to not have to kill Lelouch and yada yada yada. And add in the fact that Lelouch is now invulnerable to Geass (at least from the Emperor himself). By the way, what is the "ruling" on that matter? If an individual has already been "Geassed," by one user, are they still vulnerable to orders from another user? |
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2008-04-14, 16:27 | Link #240 |
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Where is Nunnaly anyway? All that is really said is that in ep. 2 was C.C. hadn't had the time to find her. As for marrying into the family the best possiblity was with Euphie.
As for wikipedia, it is ONLY good source for mass media, and then only so far. @Juvyniled: Your analogy reminds me the novel, A Game of Thrones. |
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