Jujutsu Kaisen <Sorcery Fight>

[Kanon]

That trial should be fun.

[Shadow5YA]

On one hand I could see this turning into an Ace Attorney trial battle, but on the other hand Sukuna is so unapologetic that I wonder if he'd even care to defend himself in court.

[WingedAccelerator]

Yuuji's trial with Higuruma showed that the Executioner's Sword has to hit, or at least make contact.

Attempting the death sentence on Sukuna is one thing, actually executing him is another. And I can't shake the feeling that even if the sword hits him, he would just shrug it off. Like it won't work unless the target feels actual remorse for the victims or something like that.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator

Attempting the death sentence on Sukuna is one thing, actually executing him is another. And I can't shake the feeling that even if the sword hits him, he would just shrug it off. Like it won't work unless the target feels actual remorse for the victims or something like that.

That would be stupid. Besides, his cursed technique is based on Higuruma's own sense of justice, there's no way he wouldn't want to punish someone because that person doesn't feel remorse. If anything, it makes a punishment even more warranted.

I think Sukuna is going to try to get Yuji convicted, mostly for the lulz.

[Tactics]

Knowing Sukuna, he will said something like, "Yeah, I do kill them, so what?" to parallel with Yuji previous trial.
At worst Higuruma will sent to airport off-screen and make comments about he made mistake for thinking it possible to restrict Sukuna by human laws.



Joke aside, Sukuna is stacked without redirecting the crime to Yuji.

Ignoring any laws tied to time and place, assuming he pay attention to Yuji trial, attempted murder (when he told Kusakabe and Panda to not run from Meteor until he allowed them to) can be treated as "done without intention to do crime". So do Shibuya massacre which part of it able to be counted as self-defense against Mahoraga (especially in anime, LOL) and personal interest to save Megumi.

Even if they confiscated Shrine, he still got remnant of 10S which likely powered up by deceased 10S.
Hitting him with Executioner Sword won't be easy as well given 1/10 of his strength is enough to deal with Awakened Maki and Yuji at same time; good if Jackpot Hakari can support them.

[Shadow5YA]

Hakari will likely still be fighting Uraume, so I doubt he will help out here.

[Tactics]

Spoiler for 245:

First half:

Hakari fight with Uraume continues, Hakari managed to drag Uraume far;
Uraume slowly noticed that base Hakari regeneration speed is abnormal even compare to Gojo and Sukuna.
Inability to finish Hakari sooner than expected to help Sukuna ASAP angered Uraume and pique Hakari curiosity. Both decide not to play around anymore.

Second half:

The trial continues. As expected Sukuna don't care about it at all, he tell them to finish it already so he can see Executioner Sword, which he consider the only not-boring part from watching Yuji trial. Trial immediately ends. Higuruma obtain Executioner Sword. Kusakabe team (Choso, Kusakabe, Ino) arrive to jump on Sukuna after the trial as planned.

Suddenly a barrage of Cleaves thrown to the lawyer, caught Higuruma surprised that Kusakabe have to protect him with his body (Falling Blossom?) so Higuruma not instantly killed. Higuruma wonders how it even possible? He suspect that Kamutoke (the cursed tool Sukuna used) is also counted as CT for confiscation target, looking at Sukuna hands forming handseal for that barrage of Cleaves.

Seriously, Gege ...

[Kanon]

Spoiler for 245:

Was it established before that the priority of Judgeman is confiscating curse tools over curse techniques? If not, was there any way Sukuna could have been aware of it, hence why he gave no fuck? Because that seems like a huge asspull to allow Sukuna to win again.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Spoiler for 245:

Was it established before that the priority of Judgeman is confiscating curse tools over curse techniques? If not, was there any way Sukuna could have been aware of it, hence why he gave no fuck? Because that seems like a huge asspull to allow Sukuna to win again.

Nothing about the priority, but cursed tools have been established to have cursed techniques imbued into them since a long time ago.

When Toji took Maki's Playful Cloud, they said that it was the only special grade cursed tool not imbued with a cursed technique.

[Endscape]

Last week we heard Higuruma mention how Judgeman worked based on his own perception. As a lawyer, it's only logical that he would subconsciously prioritize confiscating weapons from criminals as long as they fulfill the conditions of his technique.

It's the kind of oversight no amount of talent would let you overcome.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Nothing about the priority, but cursed tools have been established to have cursed techniques imbued into them since a long time ago.

When Toji took Maki's Playful Cloud, they said that it was the only special grade cursed tool not imbued with a cursed technique.

So there was indeed nothing about priority.

Originally Posted by Endscape

Last week we heard Higuruma mention how Judgeman worked based on his own perception. As a lawyer, it's only logical that he would subconsciously prioritize confiscating weapons from criminals as long as they fulfill the conditions of his technique.

It's the kind of oversight no amount of talent would let you overcome.

Shouldn't Higuruma know how his own technique works? He was also repeatedly shown to be extremely smart, even if he couldn't be certain, he should have foreseen that possibility.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Shouldn't Higuruma know how his own technique works?

Higuruma already said in the previous chapter how Judgeman was RNG and he had no idea of knowing what would happen with someone who has multiple cursed techniques.
That's why they tried to minimize the RNG by narrowing the scope to Yuji.

They were already expecting it to be random between confiscating Sukuna's cutting technique and Megumi's 10 Shadows, but Kusakabe thought disabling either technique would be helpful.

Originally Posted by Kanon

He was also repeatedly shown to be extremely smart, even if he couldn't be certain, he should have foreseen that possibility.

To be fair, he did catch on at the end.

Keep in mind when they were planning this before Gojo lost. Sukuna only got Kamutoke after Kashimo jumped in, who didn't last long anyway.
There wasn't much time to account for this, or Sukuna getting his original body back.

[Tactics]

The moment you acknowledged it's an overlook on Higuruma part, you have to explain why he failed to understand something that should belong to basic rule of his DE while other DE users like Gojo, Mahito and Sukuna never shown to miss a thing about their own DE, especially Mahito who more or less a newbie like him.

You can use his inexperience as excuse but that put dent to narrative about being genius with 100 point on Culling Game as we saw the top dogs of each area tend to have their own Curse Tools.

[Shadow5YA]

He did know how his own cursed technique works though.

What he didn't know was how cursed tools worked.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Shouldn't Higuruma know how his own technique works? He was also repeatedly shown to be extremely smart, even if he couldn't be certain, he should have foreseen that possibility.

Originally Posted by Tactics

The moment you acknowledged it's an overlook on Higuruma part, you have to explain why he failed to understand something that should belong to basic rule of his DE while other DE users like Gojo, Mahito and Sukuna never shown to miss a thing about their own DE, especially Mahito who more or less a newbie like him.

People forget that no matter how much of a genius Higuruma is, he's only been doing this for less than 2 months. There's no substitute for experience, especially with a finnicky ability like Judgeman that can't easily experiment with.

You can use his inexperience as excuse but that put dent to narrative about being genius with 100 point on Culling Game as we saw the top dogs of each area tend to have their own Curse Tools

None of the reincarnated sorcerers or the new ones were walking around with special grade cursed tools.

[Tactics]

You can only use that kind of excuse IF there's any case of DE ever need user manuals.

For regular CT there's case with Infinity and 10S that Blue / Dog is basic, Red / Deer is intermediate, Purple / Mahoraga is advance.
For DE? When we ever get something like that? Once again, reminder that Mahito is also a newbie and he never made blunder such as forgot his own soul manipulation range, cost and effect whenever his DE come to play. To forgot basic of your own embodiment of beliefs is embarrassing.

Curse tool counted as CT also put Yuta and Yuji copy on weird state as it implied Rika and Yuji can simply eat stuffs like ISOH or Black Rope to get desired effect since Judgement acknowledging curse tools as confiscation material that last chapter Higuruma specify as Curse Techniques.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Tactics

You can only use that kind of excuse IF there's any case of DE ever need user manuals.

For regular CT there's case with Infinity and 10S that Blue / Dog is basic, Red / Deer is intermediate, Purple / Mahoraga is advance.
For DE? When we ever get something like that?

Gojo said way back in Hidden Inventory, techniques like Infinity do have user manuals: the records of previous users.

Once again, reminder that Mahito is also a newbie and he never made blunder such as forgot his own soul manipulation range, cost and effect whenever his DE come to play. To forgot basic of your own embodiment of beliefs is embarrassing.

Mahito also had the opportunity to experiment with his ability. Higuruma doesn't have that chance because of the way his ability works.

Curse tool counted as CT also put Yuta and Yuji copy on weird state as it implied Rika and Yuji can simply eat stuffs like ISOH or Black Rope to get desired effect since Judgement acknowledging curse tools as confiscation material that last chapter Higuruma specify as Curse Techniques.

Special grade cursed tools have cursed techniques engraved in them just like people

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Once again, reminder that Mahito is also a newbie and he never made blunder

Yes he did. You forget the first time he used Domain Expansion and forgot to consider Sukuna.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by Endscape

Gojo said way back in Hidden Inventory, techniques like Infinity do have user manuals: the records of previous users.

Mahito also had the opportunity to experiment with his ability. Higuruma doesn't have that chance because of the way his ability works.

Read again, I knew CT have user manuals, especially for inherited technique.

DE? When? Mahito did him on fly, Higuruma have weeks and won against 20 people using his DE to get 100 points.
Not to mention Naoya also using 24 FPS rule CT like Naobito but he have DE while Naobito didn't. So DE depends on individual and come without user manuals unless it ever mentioned otherwise; in case you forgot, Sukuna use 10S but he can't use Megumi's Chimera Shadow Garden.

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Yes he did. You forget the first time he used Domain Expansion and forgot to consider Sukuna.

Mahito's DE effect is 'direct touch' to souls of people within barrier, thus no need for physical contact when he used his DE.
Yuji forced his way inside Mahito DE prior to said event, so of course Mahito will made contact with Sukuna. That's like saying Sukuna DE malfunctioned because Inumaki also get cut instead of only Mahoraga when he is within Shrine range.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Read again, I knew CT have user manuals, especially for inherited technique.

DE? When? Mahito did him on fly, Higuruma have weeks and won against 20 people using his DE to get 100 points.

Mahito's DE is just his regular technique with a sure hit. We saw him do plenty of experiments with it. Higuruma's domain is extra gimmicky with a lot of rules and conditions he himself doesn't get baked in.

Not to mention Naoya also using 24 FPS rule CT like Naobito but he have DE while Naobito didn't.

The same Naoya that died because he couldn't figure out how his DE interacted with his enemies' ability?

Yuji forced his way inside Mahito DE prior to said event, so of course Mahito will made contact with Sukuna. That's like saying Sukuna DE malfunctioned because Inumaki also get cut instead of only Mahoraga when he is within Shrine range.

You're missing the point. Mahito and Cursed Naoya for that matter, lost because they didn't understand a crucial aspect of their DE, just like Higuruma.