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View Poll Results: Haruka or Mitsuki? | |||
Haruka, and respondent is male | 259 | 45.52% | |
Haruka, and respondent is female | 54 | 9.49% | |
Mitsuki, and respondent is male | 216 | 37.96% | |
Mitsuki, and respondent is female | 40 | 7.03% | |
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2007-08-21, 17:34 | Link #222 |
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Mitsuki was fine (except for that god-awful mullet haircut) UNTIL she slept with Shinji. Then I lost all respect for her. What the hell!? Break up with Takayuki FIRST! I have no tolerance for cheaters, male OR female....I think it's really inexcusable. Just being sad and lonely does not make it okay to sleep with someone else!
I liked the OLD Mitsuki...she was cheerful and energetic and a good friend and the new older Mitsuki is just completely emo. So in the end, I'm a Haruka fan. She totally got a backbone and that impressed me.
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2007-08-21, 20:00 | Link #223 | |
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2007-08-22, 00:17 | Link #224 | |
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What was the reasoning as to where Haruka was standing when she was hit? Who made that decision? In relation to how 4tran understandably feels there is a weak correlation between the two events, whomever made the decision of where Haruka was to stand was also at fault, and as far as I am aware...the story states that she chose the spot to meet, so if Mitsuki and Takayuki have fault, then so does Haruka. Food for thought
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2007-08-22, 00:27 | Link #225 |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Yes, Haruka is at fault for being hit by a truck that is not supposed to be there Haruka waiting for Takayuki there is 'just as planned'. Takayuki being late because of Mitsuki and the truck running astray is not 'just as planned'. The last two are the variables that caused the situation to develop in unexpected way. She would not have been there when the disaster struck should have Takayuki been on time.
Once again - i am not calculating to what degree guilt should be passed around, simply the fact whether Haruka being hit by the car is liked with Taka being late. (And i find it hard (read: impossible) to think they are not related).
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2007-08-22, 02:11 | Link #226 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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What if Takayuki made it on time but had to make a sudden phone call? What if Takayuki made it on time and they stuck around for just a couple minutes longer? They never went into detail, even in the game, to when the accident actually occurred, so in the technical sense of things, it could've happened even if Takayuki was on time...just that it would've probably happened to them both and wouldn't have made for such a dramatic story. Hell, since they never went into detail to as when the accident actually occurred, then it is also a possibility that the accident took place prior to the time Takayuki had to be there, which means that even if Mitsuki kept Takayuki past the meeting that and the accident occurred before it, that it wouldn't be either Takayuki or Mitsuki's fault. Basically, it's simple...seeing as there are far too many variables to even account for without having physically known the exact time of the accident's occurrence, then it would be impossible to impart blame upon anyone but the driver, or in the most direct case, Haruka for choosing that place in which to stand.
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2007-08-22, 02:29 | Link #227 |
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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I don't know how you can even say that Mitsuki and Takayuki are even partially responsible for the accident in the truest sense. The direction of causality is skewed at best.
If anything, they did feel responsible for it, hence Mitsuki's sense of guilt and Takayuki's emotionally mixed up longing for Haruka when she wakes up three years later. But that's as far as it goes concerning this idea of them being truly responsible for such a tragic thing. We could blame the driver, bad tires, bad brakes or the stupid cat that got in the way. Who knows? Maybe if Takayuki got there in time, he might have gotten hit by the truck as well. In other words, you really can't point a finger regarding who should be blamed for the accident at all. The point of the story concerns what happens after all of that. |
2007-08-22, 13:52 | Link #228 |
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Seems like it sparked quite a debate.
All I was meant in the first place was that it'd be very wrong for someone to actually point their finger towards Mitsuki and blame for the event, since it was obviously out of her control. Technically I suppose you could say she is partially responsible for the event taking place. I just worded myself as poorly in the first place, I'll work harder to keep my English up to date. ^^
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2007-08-23, 05:58 | Link #229 | |
Snape: "I hate Potter!"
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1. Taka is going out with Haruka first. 2. Shows a lack of trust Mitsuki places in taka. (the irony here is that she was the true untrustworthy person taking advantage of taka when he was down) 3. Throwing tantrums all over the place.. (that scene where she chucked the home buying books out the window anyone?) 4.Quick to assume the worst and take susequent uncalled for action in order to rectify it. Honestly, I could never stand Mitsuki she honestly reminds me of a paranoid housewife thinking her husband is cheating on her everytime he's home 5 min late.. That's why i think Haruka is more interesting because of her ability to grab the viewers attention, without being too overly annoying or dominating...
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2007-08-24, 02:52 | Link #231 | |
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Mitsuki seems a lot more fun (teasing, etc), but of course, this is MY opinion.. So, don't get mad by how I think. |
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2007-08-26, 00:41 | Link #232 | ||
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I agree with Chiibi. The fictional accident is really the fictional driver's fault, if you ask me. The rest are unpredictable, circumstantial elements...though it's natural to feel bad or even angry if someone's actions (or your own) contributed to a tragedy.
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It's not a pretty sight, but hardly what amounts to simply "cheating", with all the implications that word carries around (and almost makes "real" cheaters look less bad). I don't want to bring too much of real life into this, but there's a difference between the two types of situations. The line between rationality and irrationality may seem thin at times, but it does exist. On the other hand... Spoiler for game:
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2007-09-03, 03:07 | Link #234 |
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I chose Haruka, partly because I feel sympathy towards her. I think it was just really sad that she had to suffer even though she didn't do anything wrong. Another reason I chose Haruka was because I just dont like Mitsuki at all.
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2007-09-04, 10:42 | Link #235 |
Rosa Gigantea
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: France
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OMG, what is wrong with you people! Blaming Mitsuki for the accident Haruki (or whatever) got into!
Did you ever had yourself in an accident or lost someone dearly, or wished an event never happened!? They weren't PLANNED, they were just happening in the essence of time, Mitsuki NEVER knew it would have happened to Haruka, she didn't planned it, and she certainly didn't want Haruka to be smashed and with that stupid truck! The only thing I didn't like about Mitsuki, as Echoes said, is she slept with another man, which is their friend which makes it worse! But I find that 'friend' at fault, he knew Mitsuki was at mental retard state, so he shouldn't have agreed! Men are such lustful creatures, really! |
2007-09-04, 10:56 | Link #236 | |
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Shinji should of course have held back, and his actions are not excusable, but in his circumstances holding back was easier said than done. I don't think Shinji was the kind of guy who was just out to get laid, it wasn't just lust that led to his actions, he had genuine feelings for Mitsuki, I believe.
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2007-09-12, 19:38 | Link #237 |
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Talking about what if's is interesting but pointless, you might as well argue that HAD takayuki arrived on time, he and Haruka COULD have been both hit by the truck, or that Takayuki would have been hit by the truck, etc. The point is, no one is at fault by either common sense or law except for the driver of course. It was a accident, no one could have forseen it, if you believe in fate you can call it that or if not, an accident, such things happen in real life, I mean, am I at fault if me and my friends chose to trun right instead of left and 10 miles down that right road there was say a insane lunny and my friend was stabbed? Could I have forseen that happening? Same with those three, no one knew and no one was at fault.
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2007-09-12, 20:02 | Link #238 | |
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2007-09-12, 20:25 | Link #239 |
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well, its useful in getting the company money if thats what you mean. As for the new OVA, I haven't heard anything beyond the inital stuff, anidb doesn't eve list it for some reason. I'm not sure if the OVA is going to be based off of the fan disk though, but for the purpose of the "main series" if you will, the if is not so much important as the consquence that followed the accident.
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