2024-05-07, 00:59 | Link #184 |
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The beginning conversation shows Makoto is going turn the world(governed by the goddess) upside down. Right now, Makoto is keeping a low profile. The goddess still has the upper hand in power, but the world is somewhat mess up. Since Makoto doesn't find any friendly nation to keep his company undercover, he intends to build one. Makoto negotiates peace with the demon general. Still, the demon general cross over the line. Makoto is going to make her feel regret. He doesn't care about Illumgand. Illumgand is annoying, but he is harmless in front of Makoto. Instead targeting the culprit, Mio vents out her unahappiness to Illumgand.
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2024-05-07, 13:20 | Link #185 |
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I don't know how to think about it. When the student who turned into monster and was thought to have been killed started to regenerate and eas not evil anymore, it's a sign of redemption. He even wanted to help people but Mio just killef him because she's still mad that while he was being manipulated he said mean things about "master". She wouldn't accept any apology or forgivenes while the music was trying to paint the scene as if Mio did some heroic/good thing
Is this like a cultural difference between Japanese and westerners? These last few episodes have just felt really strange, where they are actively not helping/preventing people from dying and just kinda loafing around, and refusing to help people despite internal monologues saying they COULD help. And the music/framing is painting them as "the good guys" despite this.
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2024-05-07, 13:21 | Link #186 | |
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Yeah that was...unpleasant. Probably the lowest moment for Mio. And that's saying something considering her and Tomoe pretty much wasted a whole town in the first season during a competitive spat between them.
Illumgand was a jerk, but that was over the top. Made some rather poor choices, but honestly think he got enough of a hit for that with everything that occurred. I don't know. Episode left a bad taste in my mouth. But that's kind of been the case for this second season. The show had a good stride going for it, but this one has been nothing but stumbling around. Quote:
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2024-05-07, 13:42 | Link #187 | |
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Nothing else really matters to them, morally or ethically.
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2024-05-08, 10:09 | Link #188 | ||
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What you have in mind is that the main character and his followers being so overpowered that they MUST act as saviours when they are under absolutely no obligation to do so. In real life, people will only take care of their immediate family, close friends, and only until a certain degree of separation that they feel is within their respective senses of reason. This is unlike the trope of heroism/saviour complex that is commonly found in the usual isekai stories. That said, there are 2 "heroes" in that world - Hibiki and Tomoki. Hibiki is the hero trope that you're looking for. Makoto isn't a hero nor does he set himself as hero nor does he do heroic deeds. Rather than expecting to force-fit this trapezoid shape of a show into the square peg of your projections and expectations, watch it with an understanding of the main character and his motivations as shown so far. |
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2024-05-08, 15:20 | Link #190 |
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First Mio isn't good, she's a literal embodiment of entropy that most of the time is not capable of reason due to the need to feed and left to her own ends will eat the planet. Her value system is little by beyond that of an animal.
Second Makoto isn't a hero and has been soured by this world in general.
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2024-05-13, 10:41 | Link #191 |
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Oh NOW it's time to finally act? About time .
Though Makoto isn't about to throw his students into the maw, thinking they're safer staying behind on defense. Plus, Aqua and Eris are there for backup . Well, yeah, when they finally put their mind to it they can just casually stroll through town and just kill any demons that come their way, no problem. Barely an inconvenience . Seeing Zara again is probably the last thing Makoto wanted, but he's pulled an about face now that he has a better understanding of Makoto's true power and influence, and that he owes him a bit for his safety. Plus he and Rembrandt are old pals and "Pat" knows how to push Zara's buttons, so he's definitely not the same intimidating figure Makoto dealt with before. Just don't leave him alone with Mio . It's not like they're taking this seriously, so why not make it a game between Shiki and Mio over who can kill more mutants and get a prize from Makoto? Just look at how giddy Mio is . Rembrandt and Zara were once naive idealists who believed in selling the best to people at affordable prices, but the reality of merchant life and what war cost them hardended them. Yet in Makoto they see a new, lucrative, opportunity, one that could turn them against the Goddess but reap more rewards than they could possibly imagine. Though I probably didn't want to know that Shifu looks like Zara's old flame which is why he's fond of her . Poor Tomoe didn't get in on the "get a reward from Makoto" game . Mondo wrestling mutants and turning them into trees! And teaming-up with Lime ! Headmaster getting unruly again? Perfect time for Aqua and Eris to don their leaf outfits and freeze the academy to protect it! Even though now they don't have a way to get out. Mondo is definitely going to scold them for this later . A mastermind? Someone was collaborating with the demons? And Mio is going to take care of them? Hmmm . Makoto makes a show of restoring telepathy, just in time for them to realize the Imperial and Royal capital are under attacks and this was all just a distraction. And Makoto is their best chance at getting back in time. Is this how Makoto meets the other Heroes ?
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2024-05-13, 20:40 | Link #192 |
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Makoto appears to get himself into situation he doesn't want to be. Due to the poor treatment of goddess, he almost got killed twice. He doesn't want to get involve with goddess's game. If he helps those kingdoms, he feels he is doing the favor to goddess. Of course, goddess doesn't think that way. So, Makoto is doomed to do her bidding. Maybe he will do something as he pleased someday. Also, the destruction of his store convinces him he will not be in a good term with the demon. He gets alone with other tribes. They find the sanctuary in his dimension and level up like crazy. The cleanup of the city chaos shows how great they have become.
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2024-05-14, 02:47 | Link #197 |
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I am well aware of who Hibiki is since I have read the webnovel some time back. However at this stage of the story in the anime, we are not privy to all that you have posted since she only elaborates her viewpoints and opinions on the war and how to resolve it a bit after the events that will be covered in Season 2. Thus, your elaboration is very much spoiler. At this current juncture, she is following the hero trope, especially so, if the show were just to mainly follow Hibiki's exploits.
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2024-05-14, 08:08 | Link #199 |
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But doesn't our history prove that Hibiki is kinda right in that slaves will eventually gain rights and freedom as society processing, meaning a bloody war to achieve all that is basically meaningless, and ending this war with as little blood as possible will benefit everyone in the end?
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Looks like Makoto is all set to be the hero...and he finally gets summoned to meet the Goddess again . Quote:
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