Fire at Kyoto Animation

[zztop]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

...but the studio would have to adopt a much more traditional production model than they've used so far.

I agree, creatively I don't consider this a positive for the most part. Working in a more traditional manner with an infusion of "outsider" sensibility would be good for them artistically I think. But is that something Hatta is going to want to do at this point?

Just to confirm the summary of your thoughts;

For Kyoani to rebuild itself, they can't rely 100% on their insular, self-sufficient business model. They'll have to reuse the traditional model of contracting outside animators/directors/designers to work on their projects to make up for lost talent.
In addition, bringing in outside talent will help diversify Kyoani's creative aesthetic, which you and others feel is too boxed in and reliant on the same inhouse character designs.
(IMO I always thought it was their intentional move to develop their own constant inhouse aesthetic to claim as their calling card, unlike the more jack-of-all-trades image of other studios.)

Speaking of traditional manner, would/should that also extend to Kyoani opening themselves up more to accepting commissions from external production committees to adapt LNs/manga/etc. whose IPs don't belong to them? My understanding was that it was meant to make Kyoani more independent in calling the shots, rather than be at the mercy of (insert outside publisher name here) or (insert mangaka name here).

[Klashikari]

I still have huge trouble with people claiming they "always keep the same aesthetics" when direction and character designs are really different, and that was already the case back during Chuunibyou era.
Recent projects involved the following character designers: Takase (VEG), Kadowaki (Tsurune, Maid dragon, Amaburi), Nishiya (Free, Hyouka, Nichijou), Ikeda Shoko (Euphonium, Haruhi) and Ikeda Kazumi (Phantom, Chuubibyou). I mean, if you were to compare the designs with each other, I fail to see how they are remotely the same.
If we are to discuss about the directors, the same observations can be made. For instance, Ishihara and Takemoto (RIP) comedies have different joke deliveries and theme emphasis, regardless of the difference between the source materials.
Yes, KyoAni is known for their emphasis on body language and a certain color pallet at times (VEG being possibly an exception to the latter rule), but in term of aesthetics, they are clear cut different. This is especially true for Kadowaki's. The only case things were "too similar" was series with Horiguchi's design, and that hardly was something that lasted.

On the flip side, yes, their choice of adaptation commonly gravitates around slice of life to a certain degree, but I think that's pretty much how the other big animation studio operate, such as Bones and Madhouse, mostly hired for shounen/action series. If that's their "specialization" that is also caused by their work environment and tenets (direct involvement in the production committee), then I believe they won't change things any time soon. If anything, if they make those changes in such times, I don't believe it will have a positive effect on them. Quite the contrary.

[topboy]

35th Victim of Kyoto Animation Fire Passes Away
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...s-away/.149423
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/201...011271000.html

The death toll of the blaze caused by suspected arson now stands at 35 people. 33 more people were seriously injured, and 10 of them are still hospitalized as of Saturday.

I don't get this. If 33 seriously injured why only 10 still in hospital what about 23 ?

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by topboy

35th Victim of Kyoto Animation Fire Passes Away
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...s-away/.149423
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/201...011271000.html

The death toll of the blaze caused by suspected arson now stands at 35 people. 33 more people were seriously injured, and 10 of them are still hospitalized as of Saturday.

I don't get this. If 33 seriously injured why only 10 still in hospital what about 23 ?

35 peolpe total got injuries of differents severity initially. 2 of them died, 10 are still in hospital and 23 most probably got their treatment and are fine enough to continue it home already.

[topboy]

Thank u for explained. At first I think all of 33 still seriously injured right now.

[BBOvenGuy]

Burns are horrible injuries, that take a long time to get over. I got a 3rd degree acid burn in my high school chemistry class, just a couple of spots on my arm but it took months before it was really healed.

[Yu Ominae]

This one's old news. But South Korea's MOFA informed the public that one of the Kyo Ani staff members is a South Korean working in Kyoto.

[dragon1412]

at this point though, i think reaching out to other studio is unavoidable for at least 1 year. Whether this is making a good or bad effect is a question for the future, but for now, at the very least, i think reaching out to other studios might do wonder for their mentality to overcame this tragedy. It help a lot when someone outside chime in to help.

[Ithekro]

If I recall, KyoAni has their own school for training new people. They can teach their own newcomers. What they will need is to promote some new directors and new senior position animators. Everyone else they can get from their students.

[RRW]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

If I recall, KyoAni has their own school for training new people. They can teach their own newcomers. What they will need is to promote some new directors and new senior position animators. Everyone else they can get from their students.

That school is the burned one....

[Ithekro]

Was it? I thought that was the semi-seperate studio they split off not long ago.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by dragon1412

at this point though, i think reaching out to other studio is unavoidable for at least 1 year. Whether this is making a good or bad effect is a question for the future, but for now, at the very least, i think reaching out to other studios might do wonder for their mentality to overcame this tragedy. It help a lot when someone outside chime in to help.

IMO that would have worked ten years ago, but nowadays anime studios have their schedule packed for two years, so unless they get some directors and other key positions out of the retirement pool, I doubt they can fill the missing positions to deliver on announced projects.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga stated that the Japanese government is considering support measures for Kyoto Animation after the arson but first wants to assess the situation with the relevant government agencies before discussing measures such as compensation to those who died or were injured, or rebuilding management.

[SeijiSensei]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga stated that the Japanese government is considering support measures for Kyoto Animation after the arson but first wants to assess the situation with the relevant government agencies before discussing measures such as compensation to those who died or were injured, or rebuilding management.

Not collecting taxes on private donations would be a good place to start.

[TinyRedLeaf]

KyoAni blog post to "everyone in the world" (July 29, 2019)

An unprecedented atrocity has robbed many of our friends and colleagues of their bright futures and has left many deeply injured.

News from all over the world tells us that amazingly many number of people has sent us their hearts and prayers, which are like candles in the darkness, for those of us trapped in the darkness of deepest grief.

There are many friends and colleagues who are hospitalised and suffering, fighting for their lives.

Please give us some time.

We promise that Kyoto Animation will continue to create animation that help people have dreams, hope and impress them.

Kyoto Animation will continue to make its employees and staff lead happy lives, and contribute to society and local community.

I assure you that Kyoto Animation will not give up, we will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight!



Kyoto Animation Co. CEO, Hideaki Hatta

Yes. Don't give up, and never give in to those who seek senseless destruction.

[~Yami~]

that is a great positive statement from the president

and the donation that they got is actually fantastic.. The only problem is just the lost talent and trauma-healing (actually these are the main issue and the longer one)
The rebuilding should not take too long

[Sheba]

Other than mourning the dead, recovering from the physical and mental injuries and overcome the trauma, they mostly need to rebuild the lost talent pool, and find directors as good as those who are gone. That's some big shoes to fill for someone like Naoko Yamada. Wish the best for her and the others.

They managed to salvage data from the server

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

KyoAni blog post to "everyone in the world" (July 29, 2019)

Wait.....that sounds familiar.....where have I heard it before?.......Oh yeah, Independence Day!:

YouTube

https://youtu.be/3_QSJyJaeD4

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Haha, what a President-thing to say .

[Magin]

According to other sources I've seen online, the bit that comes from Independence Day isn't part of the original Japanese message. Apparently, it was put there to convey the feeling of the message instead.

Of course, it also shows my own personal views as well on translations- apparently the best translators know how to convey the feelings of the original message, whereas myself (at my extremely low level) prefer translations that are as close to the original message as possible. And I've seen/heard of more than one incident where an official translation completely screwed up a series, but that's another story(and on a side note, why I generally prefer fan translations)

[Guardian Enzo]

Some good news: apparently the materials from the Studio 1 servers have been recovered.

https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/16849668/