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Issei already have issue to handle the power of his own body. He already is a freak and unique being: he have 8 mutated pieces, a Longinus, the powers of two Dragons Gods and the ability of make miracle thanks breast. We don't know yet all the possible effect that the Malebranche's power could have on the users. I repeat myself, is a interesting idea but I found it too dangerous: Issei could turn into a monster and the price to pay for using together the many powers of his body and the Malebranche's enhanced could be to leave him almost dying like when he used the DXD G for first time. Quote:
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I don't think that they would be dominated so easy, Ishi even has say that they were candidates for be the villains of the Forth Arc instead of Rizevim. They could be a serious threat for the DXD. |
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We have Mitsuya that has show HAX, the Eevie may have HAX as well and maybe Malacoda be the strongest Malebranche could have something capable of match True Idea. Perhaps the dream manipulation could be a combat HAX that Issei could use in future, Ryuuteimaru created weapons based on what Issei think he need to have for fight. Maybe the the true extension of dream manipulation would be to being able to make thoughts real to some extent. Quote:
Perhaps if he absorb enough dream energy he could return to live. |
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2023-08-03, 01:05 | Link #1004 | |
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Great Red's ability could be anything which is the way Ishibumi wants it so he can use it as a source for any kind of power-ups for Issei. Don't expect him to take away one of his biggest Deus Ex Machina s by being specific about Great Red's power.. |
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2023-08-03, 11:42 | Link #1006 |
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They are almost like childrens and for be a Maou you must have a certain amount of popularity so I would say not for the moment.
Honestly I'm little disappointed by the fact that Ishibumi long the way has left unexplored some interesting stuff: Among the Hades's army there was Ultimate Class with the potential of be Maou Class but it seem that Ishi could have forgot about them or let them capture or die offscreen. Beowulf was said to be one of Top 5 pawns of the Underworld but we haven't discovered who are the others 4. Who knows maybe they are part of Diehauser's peerage? It was said that there is a Top 10 of the Pro Regulars Rating Games's players but so far Ishi the ones of this Top 10 that were introduced are Diehauser, Ruval, Tannin, Bezede and Roygun. Maybe the Azazel Cup could have been a chance for show them but I think Ishi has forgot about or either he didn't care about them cause back then he has already choice what he would have show long the Azazel Cup. |
2023-08-04, 11:24 | Link #1007 |
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Coming back to what Indra said I kinda love it but the execution wasn’t playing, right mainly because ish didn’t explore, the horizon more for ise/ peerage characters growth it’s true on both sides mainly because he didn’t really need her but for the plot ish made it seem that way when he has other people around him that can help him more, but I guess the fandom will throw a fit if there wafu isn’t around too much despite it slows his character growth
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2023-08-04, 12:16 | Link #1008 |
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You mean what Indra said about Ravel?
The best thing to do is to retire Ravel and Roygun. Or at least Ravel and Roygun should defer to Issei's leadership rather than leading the team on his behalf. Ravel has already shown her intellect against Rudiger, so we don't necessarily need to see more against Diehauser. Issei can propose to her after the match. Maybe Roygun should be jobbed out again. And if Ishibumi has Ravel or someone else help Issei in leading the ExE team, that would be an epic fail. |
2023-08-04, 16:48 | Link #1009 |
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I’m saying if you continue to put rias around him in important situations, she’ll take away his possibilities of him being a leader. against Diehauser I wished it was a like a puzzle match tbh her volume should be against her brother ruval now him leading ExE it’ll most likely go downhill because ish continues to push rias as a catalyst but when team Dxd gets wipe out I expect a timeskip I want ingvild lead with him
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2023-08-05, 04:36 | Link #1010 | |
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Issei's unique character pretty much just revolved around him being a breast-loving pervert and his power-ups through breasts. Once you take that away Issei barely has any character to speak of. He has no real goals or any opinions or any personality besides the one mentioned above. His other personality is just a combination of your typical shounen and harem MCs which isn't really unique and is done way better in other series. As a result of Ishibumi not wanting to change Issei's character to change to adapt to the growing plot, he has others do the heavy lifting for him. Other characters state what his goals should be, other characters take the initiative on his behalf, he's reactive instead of proactive, etc. Think about how they were discussing Issei being a Maou despite his only qualifications for the role is his fame and status rather than any real ability I'd his own. They were discussing him being Asmodeus because it represented lust, but talked about leaving the actual duties of the Maou to someone else. Issei won't grow because Ishibumi doesn't really want him to. He'll stay the super-perverted boob dragon who powers up through breasts even though that stopped being comedic a long time ago and just clashes with the plot now. Kind of the same reason why Gasper still wears a girl's uniform despite supposedly becoming manlier. Last edited by Lucidrago; 2023-08-05 at 04:47. |
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Without Ravel, Issei will be forced to lead the team. Remember, Ravel was heartbroken in v23 when they lost to Dulio/Rudiger and Issei actually had to act as a leader for the first time. This is the reason I think Ishibumi should job Ravel (and maybe Roygun) out in the Diehauser match, because it would force Issei to act in a leadership capacity once again. |
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Why I don't want it is because it just comes out of left field and Azazel, Sirzechs', and Ajuka are uncharacteristically pushing the issue without getting Issei's input which doesn't sit right with me. It's one thing if Issei stated he wanted to become a Maou like Sairaorg did but he never once stated that was his intention. He wants a harem and wants to live s peaceful life with them and will defeat anyone that interferes with that. But trying to go beyond that and just trying to unknowingly push Issei towards a position that he has never once outright stated that he wanted even once is wrong.
If Ishibumi changed Issei's goal to wanting to become a Maou that's one thing but Ishibumi has made it very clear he has no intention of changing the very core of Issei's character. Plus does Issei have any compelling personal reason to actually want to become a Maou like Sairaorg does? It's not unusual that people would want Issei to become Maou because of his reputation. But Issei wanting to be one is a whole other story. Besides with the peace between all the supernatural factions and mythologies, the position of Maou seems way too limited for someone of Issei's standing among the supernatural world. Too simply just make him Maou would simply limit him to the concerns of the Underworld and very little else. He wouldn't be able to move around as he wished and in some cases would be tied down by bureaucracy and politics. |
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I mean he wants to change the underworld isn't that more of a reason? it's honestly sad you bringing up his flat character arc, in display my thing is in writing, in general, what's the issue with growing him as a character? It's going on 11 years why is he backpedaling? I would rather him being a maou than a passive harem Mc with the same sub plots.
The only reason I'm ok with him being a maou he's more active in changing stuff, Last edited by Dareal_truth; 2023-08-10 at 23:43. |
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It makes sense from Sairaorg's perspective since he's been at the receiving end of that. Issei might feel that being a Maou could be a possibility but the only goal that really mattered to Issei was getting a harem. Everything pretty much has revolved around that and he pretty much had no other goal than that one in particular. Everything else is just a side effect of him moving toward his only real goal. Even if Issei wanted to change the Underworld, he wouldn'√ be the only character that would. Remember what I said about Ishibumi having other characters do the heavy lifting for Issei? |
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2023-08-11, 05:31 | Link #1019 |
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I think back in v5, Tannin told Issei that having a harem as his main goal was a waste. At the beginning of v23, Issei claims he's lost his obsession with a harem and there's also the scene in v22 where Shiva asks Issei about his ambitions (other than a harem) and he says world peace.
So I do think it's always been Ishibumi's intention for Issei's goals to be more than having a harem, but he's been writing the progression with questionable execution so far. |
2023-08-11, 05:38 | Link #1020 |
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And I mean, Issei being a Maou and also engaging in diplomacy with the other mythologies would explain why he's so busy as an adult.
But thinking about it, wasn't it said that some of the other Maou (Falbium and Ajuka) used to delegate part of their duties to others? |
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