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Bringing that point up in this thread -- in the face of an unconscionable terrorist act caused by a white nationalist clearly espousing far-right ideals -- is entirely disingenuous. Identity politics didn't lead to this psychopath killing 50 people. This isn't the time to equivocate or "both sides" the issue. This is the time to condemn, utterly and without reservation, both the person and the ideology that caused them to commit this atrocious act.
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2019-03-17, 02:02 | Link #22 |
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I think it is time to use the entire antiterrorism playbook against that ideology. And by "entire playbook", I mean surveillance methods and the use of the whole arsenal available to fight against that scum. People like that are terrorists, and the only way to deal with terrorism is by tracking them down like the dogs they are.
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2019-03-17, 02:58 | Link #24 |
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We are talking about people who feels enabled in their own echo chambers, /pol/ and /b/ at 4chan and 8chan in that case. Have you been to those places when Trump and Brexit won? Because those guys were so drunk on their victory that they started campaining for Le Pen when they realized France could be next to succumb to that wave fueled by xenophobic populism.
They thought that spamming pics of Pepe manning gas chambers or Le Pepen or fanning the flames of the fear of "islamization" would be enough to sway the French into voting Le Pen. All while forgetting that Le Pen's program about economics and foreign politics, among things, were outright terrible as in no French with a working brain cell would vote for that shit. Shooter was in France in 2017, right when the French presidency run was going on iirc. He was absolutely livid at all the foreigners or french of foreign origin in a mall. The gap between the France of postal cards and reality, and Le Pen's defeat was the breaking point to him. And pushed him to put his project in motion. Whatever humanity he had, he lost it when he hung in places that basically told him that its okay to behave like the worst scum on Earth. He is a textbook example of seemingly ordinary man who turned into a absolute shitbag because of the wrong crowd and wrong place that enabled him to do so. And only needed a final push to jump all the way, beyond the point of no return.
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What I am submitting that staying silent or covering your ears does not make sense because you (in general, not you per se) don't want to recognize him. This act was pure evil. All mass shootings are. This particular act also culminates from the pits of opinions that has been steadily rising since the end of the second world war. Staying silent or refusing to talk about it won't make this bubbling problem go away. We have to find a away to curtail such opinion that fester in its own echo chamber which eventually, leads to a deranged individual to take arms and harm innocent people. These sort of voices are not isolated in any one nation any more thanks to internet. Ideas, good or bad, now can be global transcending the boundaries of borders and nations. Staying silent or refusing to talk about such opinion isn't making said-opinions go away. Quote:
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Regardless of how you choose to label the left, they will be truly terrifying to the far right if more politician like AOC start becoming popular. We all know even someone like AOC now stand a chance of winning presidency thanks to Trump's own success.
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2019-03-17, 15:41 | Link #28 |
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To be fair, the budjet for fighting right-wing terrorism had been slashed after the démocrates lost both chambers.The current situation is more of a republican problem than simply a Trumpian one.
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2019-03-17, 16:06 | Link #30 |
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The trouble with solutions like that is that it tends to border on human rights violations, invasion of privacy, and sometimes shadows of totalitarianism (depending on who's doing it, and who stand to gain power from it).
Mind you, this particular incident is up to New Zealand's people and government to deal with. As for the other political back and forths...the traditional response to this would be something similar to this:
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2019-03-17, 23:59 | Link #32 | |
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...le-publication
An 18-year old has been charged for sharing a live stream of the shooting on the day that it occurred. More telling, though, is what *else* he is being charged with: Quote:
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I'm disgusted with some people (particularly copsircay theorists and right wing/alt-right people) for saying the Christchurch Mosque attack was planned by the left for a weird government plot or blaming the victims saying they "deserved it" for coming to New Zealand.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/18/europ...ntl/index.html
I was afraid of this. Psychos breed more psychos. They aren't indicating if this is retaliatory inspired by NZ's but considering the timing of this event....... hmmmm.
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