(L) 5-Toubun no Hanayome

[WingedAccelerator]

I respect your opinion, Dragoon. You certainly say reasonable and convincing things, but I also feel like your love towards childhood friends noticeably influences some of your points to make the Kyoto Girl stand out more.

The time limit is not entirely just some loose speculation. 2 chapters are left from the Bride Miku volume, then comes the Bride Yotsuba and the Bride Itsuki volumes, ending another cover pattern. This makes 20 chapters total.
If by that time/during that time, Yotsuba's/Itsuki's romantic affection towards Fuutarou doesn't improve considerably, then revealing whoever was the Kyoto Girl from them may not even be worth calling final boss or finalist. It's more like tying the loose ends kind of situation. The same with Rena, if she is a different quint.
The speculation here is how many volumes are left after this pattern, because very likely Negi won't make another pattern. For a true frame, it should be only one more volume with another group cover.

I hate that piece of shit Nisekoi, but there was a certain thing that was said about the promised girl there. I think it was a conversation between Raku and Yui. Yui said something along the lines of "Can you truly fall in love with that girl, if you learn her identity?"
Essentially, I feel what we are getting here is similar. The Kyoto Girl's identity is an important piece to the general story, but not for Fuutarou's love story. He is not on pursuit to find out who was that girl, because he is content with her being a nameless someone that made him into a better person. He was quickly moved on from Rena, even with the possibility of Rena was a different person than the Kyoto girl. And Grandpa saying the name Rena didn't hit him hard enough as well.

Lastly, this may be a point I haven't touched upon yet, but is important in our conversations. You consider Negi a mystery writer, while I consider him a better romcom writer. This is why you can come up with the wildest of theories, speculations and the like, while I'm skeptical, because Negi already shows some struggle keeping with the weekly drawing and planning, making some mistakes here and there. I still think it's impossible that he planned and foreshadowed everything deliberately from the beginning, even giving seemingly insignificant panels a hidden meaning.

Originally Posted by DJBlitzkrieg

https://imgur.com/a/lQt7v8H

This is from the same volume.

Nice find! Let's see if it amounts to anything in contrast with my last sentence.

[thefreakmike]

Here's another conspiracy chart to share

Spoiler for 4:

[MK-95-]

Originally Posted by thefreakmike

Here's another conspiracy chart to share

Spoiler for 4:

Even tho they clearly made it for shits and giggles, you've gotta admire the amount of dedication and effort they put into making it. XD

I can imagine that if someone posts this on 4chan, some people there might actually take it seriously...

[Xero8420]

Ch 75... The girls were initially planning to prepare gift for Fuu on his birthday as a way to express their gratitude. But Ichika deliberately shot that plan down, with an intention of only herself give him a birthday gift. (Doubling-down her underhanded tactics). Though little did she knew, the other 3 sisters except Itsuki did not complied & went out their ways to prepare gifts anyways. Except Itsuki just gave Fuu a sleeping medicine as a treat, something what good/close friends do when couldn't think of what kind of gift to give. Shortly after Yotsuba's dilemma, the quints made five origami cranes as their gratitude of appreciation for helping them in their lives & wishes him best of luck for his national exams.

Now Itsuki's refreshment treat aside, the other 4 seems to prepare gifts in their respective different ways:

Ichika - some money in a birthday gift envelope (Hmmm... I don't know what would Fuu-kun gonna use those money. He could reject it or use it for more books & stuffs if he accepts it. Unless Ichika got an ulterior motive to encourage him to "date" her...)
[For some reasons, Nino came to suspect Ichika might have an intention to sabotaged her plan back at the bell part in the scrambled eggs arc when she noticed that somehow looked familiar envelope]

Nino - aroma therapy candles (Given his stressful state of his well-being, she thought of to do something to keep him going for his national exam. How very thoughtful of you, Nino. Waifu material flag raised! Even if no longer as a gift, it can also work as a mean to wish to do his best.)

Miku - sports gym tickets (Err... Miku... I know you tried your best to help Fuu, but I doubt he's the kind of a guy who could make a habit to hit in a gym routinely...)

Yotsuba - origami crane (love doing what she loves to do, as well as doing it as a way to wish him good luck)

But regardless, both aren't too fancy as a birthday gifts. But at least it does help Fuu-kun in one way or another.

Sorry if I'm late.

I think I got a few things I wanna call it out, especially that 68 mark hint thing. All those speculations about just one single 2-digit mark got me into my nerves, and people just took it too seriously on face value which came from some Chinese smart-ass guy in Twitter or somewhere else?! What can they justify themselves to think just an exam mark hint would yield any significance?! When it's something that was generated randomly make it look like it's not a coincidence at all?! As much as it pissed me off, but I'll digress.

PS: Can I change my vote?

[WingedAccelerator]

^I think they just randomly went with something from the magical lamp. Become rich, improve his strength, sleep better, more energy, improve his luck. Since he wished for all of this, I don't think there is a best and worst present.

Now the opposite scenario will be the interesting one. When Fuutarou has to think about presents for their birthday. They are only 20 days apart. The one, which causes him to most struggle could be a flag. Or the one he puts the most thought into.

[Calca]

Harem ending.

One marries, they all switch every night.

Completely warranted as I have been saying.

[Tenzen12]

How is any harem in modern japan "warranted"?

Plus Bride would be clear winner and everyone would be in just to not hurt their feelings.

[wuhugm]

^Yep, they'd be dead socially

Pregnant without husband

Only the registered bride will be fine

[Xero8420]

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator

^I think they just randomly went with something from the magical lamp. Become rich, improve his strength, sleep better, more energy, improve his luck. Since he wished for all of this, I don't think there is a best and worst present.

Now the opposite scenario will be the interesting one. When Fuutarou has to think about presents for their birthday. They are only 20 days apart. The one, which causes him to most struggle could be a flag. Or the one he puts the most thought into.

The other way around scenario, eh? I'll look forward to it.

Originally Posted by Calca

Harem ending.

One marries, they all switch every night.

Completely warranted as I have been saying.

Things don't work this way, I'm afraid. Unless you're one of those who're hoping a country to legalize polygamy.

One is inevitably a registered wife, while the rest can have an option to don't mind be his mistresses behind closed doors, it's up to them.

On the side note... Oh damn, I think I found myself having a Nino fever...

[RedWingFM]

Just relax. Time to admit, that harem ending is like a dream, especially in titles after 2014 year or so. There are harem/threesome endings, and they remained only in 18+ titles.

P.S. Maga-Tsuki is one of the exceptions, because main heroine(-s) here are adequate enough and MC himself is not your usual weak-willed MC.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Calca

Harem ending.

One marries, they all switch every night.

Completely warranted as I have been saying.

Easier said than done.

My country legalized polygamy up to 4 wives, and it is still extremely rare to find a family with 4 wives. So far, many rich families that I knew only have 1 wife. Finding a rich guy with 2 wives are rare enough, let's alone 4 wives.

Also I feel that harem end for this kind of genre/story will just ruin it as it will make all the earlier struggle and drama pointless.

[Schpittfeuer]

I like how virtually everyone thinks Miku is best girl.

[MK-95-]

^Because she is. Easy as that. It isn't even close when we compare any of the other four.

She now joins Rem and Kei on the list of best girls who overwhelmingly crush all competition. No other heroine from their respective series' can ever hope to beat them in that regard.

[Ichinotachi]

Originally Posted by MK-95-

^Because she is. Easy as that. It isn't even close when we compare any of the other four.

She now joins Rem and Kei on the list of best girls who overwhelmingly crush all competition. No other heroine from their respective series' can ever hope to beat them in that regard.

Ahhhh I see.

Spoiler for ..:

[wuhugm]

^^
^
Yet, they just don't win
Why?

[MK-95-]

Originally Posted by Ichinotachi

Ahhhh I see.

Spoiler for ..:

My brother.

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^^
^
Yet, they just don't win
Why?

Best girls hardly ever win because 90% of the time, they aren't the main heroine and most authors seem to have a fetish for main heroines... Life's shitty like that sometimes.

But on a more serious note, if you don't mind a polygamy ending, then Rem gets a technical win and who can honestly beat Kei right now? Maybe Ichinose, but let's keep it real, who else but Kei, really stands a chance at winning over Kiyotaka? Ichinose is too much of a goody two-shoes to see into his twisted heart. He and Kei are kindred spirits.

[Schpittfeuer]

Originally Posted by MK-95-

^Because she is. Easy as that. It isn't even close when we compare any of the other four.

She now joins Rem and Kei on the list of best girls who overwhelmingly crush all competition. No other heroine from their respective series' can ever hope to beat them in that regard.

I'm not disagreeing, to me she's the best as well, she's adorable

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Schpittfeuer

I like how virtually everyone thinks Miku is best girl.

Not me though. I think she is just so-so.

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by MK-95-

Best girls hardly ever win because 90% of the time, they aren't the main heroine and most authors seem to have a fetish for main heroines... Life's shitty like that sometimes.

Funny thing is, exactly because they are not the main heroines, author has more freedom in developing their character thus making it more interesting
But in the end, they just discard all those progress to push for the intended destination
Japan and Korean authors are just not brave enough I guess

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Funny thing is, exactly because they are not the main heroines, author has more freedom in developing their character thus making it more interesting
But in the end, they just discard all those progress to push for the intended destination
Japan and Korean authors are just not brave enough I guess

So if the MC is an indecisive trash beta, the best non-main girl should end up with him and love him unconditionally too?