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View Poll Results: KanColle - Total Series Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 0 | 0% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 1 | 6.67% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 1 | 6.67% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 40.00% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 20.00% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 6.67% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 6.67% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 13.33% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll |
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2015-03-30, 11:31 | Link #1 |
阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180
Graphic Designer
Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Belgium, Brussels
Age: 37
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KanColle - Overall Series Impressions & Total Series Rating
This thread is to be used for discussing the entire episodes of KanColle ... your thoughts about the show, overall impressions, expectations and hopes about Blu-Ray/DVD-exclusive footage etc.
A few subjects you might want to ramble on about:
And so on. The poll represents your total series rating. In other words, how you would rate all the episodes combined (1-10)? If you'd rather rate the whole series by technical/artistic merits, you can do so. An example: Animation Quality: 1-10 Voice Actors: 1-10 Script: 1-10 Soundtrack: 1-10 Editing: 1-10 Enjoyment: 1-10 Emotional Involvement: 1-10 Average = Total Series Rating Or a combination of the two. Or your general gut feeling. Feel free to discuss and more importantly, have fun |
2015-03-30, 12:06 | Link #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Brazil
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I enjoyed the anime overall, at first from an interest regarding the characters and concept that I knew from a friend and later on as a player myself. It was nice seeing the characters interact with each other, they moving around and fighting. It was often fun, especially when I wasn't trying to take it too serious. I would give the anime a high grade of 8 (although more of a 7.5). By the way, I always rate based completely on my enjoyment of a show and nothing else (although all parts of a show do affect the enjoyment).
Even thought I was able to enjoy it quite, I do think it had lots of flaws and could have been a much better show. I will focus my post on these flaws: +They often used lines from the game even thought many times it wouldn't fit very well the situation becoming awkward. It's nice to have a few lines here and there kinda as easter-eggs but only in situations where they would fit really well. +The admiral existing but being off-screen was a very bad decision. In the earlier part of the show it was ok, but get really bad later on when the story starts to revolve more around him and his plans. It would have been better if he was an actual character or didn't exist with Nagato or someone else being the commander of the base. +The anime was trying to get way too many characters in while it had only 12 episodes. The result is many characters only being showcased, but without being given background/motivations nor development. I think it would have been better if it focused on a smaller cast, like one of the squadrons Bucky was part of during the show plus a few more characters. +The anime didn't try to explain and give more information about it's setting to enrich the story. How did the ship-girls came to be? Are they created or constructed in some way? Born as humans with the souls that latter are taken from their homes and enlisted? If that's the case how was it like to be suddenly taken from a normal life to fight? I think it would have been a much better story if it tried explaining things and giving us a better background. *The mood transition was a bit bad, especially in last episode with the mood of the battle that is supposed to be serious and tense being broken many times for funny scenes and jokes. I think a big problem of the anime, that is a cause for all but the last flaw I listed, is it having too much fanservice for the gamers. The lines being obvious fanservice; the admiral being off-screen so the players could insert themselves or their favorite image of an admiral there; many characters because between the players you have fans for all different characters and they don't need to learn about them as they already do from the game; the story not being explained to not outreach the game that don't give explanations for that and scenes like the buckets or fairies appearing can be taken as "that's just how it works in the game".
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2015-03-30, 12:46 | Link #3 |
RUN, YOU FOOLS!
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost
Age: 44
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The Good
The Bad
The Ugly
I still have been entertained from beginning to the end. In fact, knowing the previous works of the director have made me adjust my expectations accordingly. Rating: 7 Poi out of 10.
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2015-03-30, 13:14 | Link #4 |
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Spain
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The lack of Admiral in the picture and excessive used of plot armor and deus ex machina in the last episode ruined it.
5/10 > Only moe saved this anime, though, also moe cause the anime to swing to the depths of horribility. LOLs Last edited by FunnyGuy; 2015-03-30 at 20:50. |
2015-03-30, 20:28 | Link #5 |
Portable Dude Mk. II
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: All ghillied up spying on someone ~2,000 yards away using telescope sights.
Age: 35
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Right, let's try to be fair, though throughout the season my impression of it has been very terrible.
+ OST felt like it was out of a classic movie with a lot of budget for orchestrals. Not that it's bad... in fact I can be impressed with it... - ... if not for something else: I felt it's also wasted on the anime. ・No comment on character design, but they do have some interesting choices for... swimsuits. That Yamato's bikini is particularly eye-catching despite how I dislike the anime. - Guess I'm not the lone guy in complaining about the Admiral's "presence." Everytime they talk to, or about him, I always go "Who or what the hell are you girls talking to/about? There's no one there! You guys sure you're not being brainwashed into thinking he exists or something?" Add to the fact that a certain idol series is airing this season and it managed to catch my attention despite being more ill-versed in its universe compared to Kancolle, it speaks volumes. - I was never a proponent of yuri. Even without it, they made Ooi even more grating than the last time I actually tried to transcribe her hourlies for the wikia (I gave up around her 4~6AM lines. ) The Fubuki/Mutsuki segment irks me. The Nagamutsu at the end irks me. ... Anymore than this and I'll just be writing a personal rant. I'll stop here and give room to those who like it to praise it instead . - They can't seem to decide on what they want to be. Serious? SOL? Or just being a series where the main appeal is cutesy anthropomorphized warships and nothing else? - Some characters are reduced to plain mob characters. A little bit more than that and they basically become broken records, not going to be surprised if they actually took some audio from the game to cut on the seiyuu budgets... I'm joking here so please. Moving on, higher up and... wow, even the game has more characterization than the anime did. Kongou is so-so, but her sisters... Oh OK whatever. And to sum it up... Since I had way too many impressions leaning on the negative, I'll mark this as a 4/10. One of these points is for the anime even being made.
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2015-03-30, 21:40 | Link #6 |
Princess or Plunderer?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the Philippines
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The main issue with Kancolle is "where the perfect balance is achieved".
Which characters, aside from the MC Fubuki, needs their own moments? How often must the show make in-game references? How much CG and how much 2D animation must be allotted to the scenes? Where should the show be serious and where should the show add its comedic moments? To me, it was the the subpar handling of those four factors that undermined the overall quality of the show. Still, it remains to be one of my personal best for this season, though. Although the plot had some issues, at least it worked, and it didn't go beyond what it can handle. I have to wonder what Season 2 will give us: a better storyline, or a bigger headache to manage? I hope Diomedéa learned a lesson about handling multiple anime projects this year. This and their other productions reveal that they still can't be relied on when it comes to taking big loads and they should just stay with a few shows a year like before. Enjoyment Score: 9 Pois over 10. Actual Score: 7.8 Pois over 10.
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2015-03-30, 23:48 | Link #7 |
Part-time misanthrope
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Animation Quality: 6-7
Usually I'm fine with any animation as long as it's fitting to the show/scene but the overuse of 3D was really bothering me at times. There is no reason to have cardboard background characters though. Voice Actors: 8-9 Given that this show was like 4boats1VA, they did a good job. I'm not too familiar with VAs but I don't remember anything bad. Script: 4 The script was lacking at best. Up to episode 7~8 it had its flaws but went on alright. 9~12 on the other hand was a complete disaster. The absence of an admiral would be fine but then they kept bringing him into the focus. The hyped Wo-class that did absolutely nothing, the ominous force manipulating fate, massively overplayed Fubuki drama, repetetive KTKM/Ooi scenes, and more. All of this gave me the impression that they didn't know how to create a proper ending and just threw together a bunch of random stuff to fill the episodes. They should have continued to focus on the initial torpedo squad more instead of switching to all the different fleets later. Soundtrack: 8 OP and ED were quite catchy. I often rewinded a few times just for the ED. The other BGMs were fine too. Editing: 3 Quality check? There were issues in every single episode. Enjoyment: 5 If it had ended at ep6 then the score would be much higher. It started out nicely and all the quality issues weren't bothering me that much. But the longer the show dragged on the more apparent its flaws became. Strong start but abysmal ending simply doesn't cut it for me. Emotional Involvement: 6 Fubuki turned out to be a decent MC (when she wasn't depressive) and the torpedo squad had a very nice chemistry. Then they split up into different fleets and hardly showed up again after. ZuiKaga was a nice addition but aside of that there wasn't really anything that I stood out for me. Overall rating: 6 poi out of 10 |
2015-03-30, 23:49 | Link #8 |
Black Steel Knight
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Indonesia
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The animation and the overall look of this anime is actually quite good and certainly a lot better than Diomedea’s other series and even much better than some other fantasy adaptations this season. The story however is so-so or okay-ish at best. It’s not bad, but not very good either. I guess the problem is how they build a story around the premise and how execute it. It felt rather lacking something. The Kanmusu characters are somehow less relatable than, say, the girls in GuP. I don’t know if it’s because they are ships-in-girls’-bodies or because the lackluster execution of their story (not to mention the one-note underdeveloped ones or those who only cameo-ing throughout the show). Last, but not least, I just can’t feel real tension in the battles. I know this is maybe a game-thing but the lack of visible physical damage when their bodies got direct hits from missiles and whatnot (the most we get is stripped/burned clothes, damaged equipments, and some bruises) really takes away the tension from me. I can’t compare that element with GuP or Arpeggio since both use “real” tanks and ships to do battle (with people and AI inside or on top of them) and those weaponized-vehicles did take “proper” damage when hit by shells, mines, missiles, torpedoes and even graviton cannons, unlike Kancolle where the girls are the weaponized-vehicles. Here, the battle approach is closer to Strike Witches which I think the battle is slightly better and more intense than Kancolle (and this comes from someone who dislikes Strike Witches to boot). Even Kisaragi who got bombed and sunk feels like an afterthought rather than a real dramatic death. I know it’s just me, but I think Kancolle battles looks a bit too “cute” to be taken seriously with all the angst .
On another topic, I find the way they are presenting the admiral by not depicting him on-screen nor making his voice heard a bit hilarious. Why? Well, because this approach is very similar to what people have done before to none other than Prophet Mohammad in movies such as The Message. In Mohammad’s case, it is necessary (and it actually works in the movie) due to honoring the Islamic tradition of not impersonating or depicting Mohammad’s look. But here in Kancolle, there’s really no need for such approach other than the makers’ insistence to provide self-insert for the audience. Or did they actually afraid that any admiral depiction they choose will upset a number of fans who already have the images of their “ideal admiral” in their minds? If so, I’d say they need to be bolder and just go out with their version of admiral whether it’s a senior/middle-aged man/woman (eg. Gendo Ikari, Bright Noa, Murrue Ramius, Sumeragi Noriega), young bishounen/bishoujo (eg. Chihaya Gunzou, Sinon Kouzuki), shota/loli (eg. Conan Edogawa, Mina Tepes), or sage-like old man (eg. Juzo Okita, Bruno Gloval) and make him/her a “real” character. As long as the writing and execution are good, audience and fans will approve.
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2015-03-31, 13:35 | Link #9 |
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When discussing the good and bad points one has to separate the first half and the second half of the anime. While not perfect the first half showed many good points:
In general the first half was very entertaining and a good build up to the second half where more serious elements could be dealt with. And now the bad points 'shine':
With the final: ok Without the final: good |
2015-04-28, 11:13 | Link #10 |
Otaku Apprentice
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http://enq-maker.com/result/b4v86Cx (the poll on the other side)
For me, the first 3/4 was good and the latter dropped (everything was said)
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