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Originally Posted by Lord Kai
Issei saving Ophis resulted in him getting a new body but not a direct result of getting DxD. From volume 12 to volume 20, he did nothing to try to unlock his potential. Ophis just happened to unlock it for him which is why it's a handout.
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DxD is literally the power of his new body being unlocked by Ophis. Who explicitly says Issei's finally reached a point he can use it in the Rizeviem fight. It's a power he received because of his actions, as opposed to something he got for being born special like Vali or Cao Cao.
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Originally Posted by Lord Kai
This doesn't even begin to make sense. So you're saying that Rias fusing with Gasper is something they could do from the getgo without any work to actually make the technique? Because Volume 24 proves you wrong, since it straight up states they developed the technique. They had to put work, thought and intent to develop it, they didn't get it as a handout just because, like how Issei got Triaina, DxD G, PDxD, PDxD time extension and the Ddraig summon.
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Except we didn't see it so according to you it doesnt matter, since it didnt have any permanent negative consequences.
And if you think that's silly, that's the point, I'm mocking the ridiculousness of your argument about the Amirita.
Triana was the result of Issei conversing with the previous hosts, unlocking his potential. DxD is as stated the direct result of his death and rebirth through Ophis and GR. PDxD is literally a reduced DxD, it's a nerf not a power-up. The Amirita nearly killed him and by enduring it he earned the boost.
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Originally Posted by Lord Kai
There nothing stated about Ddraig's seal beginning to be unlocked. Also This might have been right if Issei's survival was dependent on something he had to do, but it wasn't. I am not ignoring Amrita's risk, but Issei didn't actually do anything to survive the Amrita. He just survived it out of dumb luck or because it couldn't kill him in the first place, both of which are not even resembling actual merit.
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Lol what. God's seal on Ddraig has been mentioned to be unlocking several times as they developed, which is why things like Penetrate and the super flames became available.
Issei survived Amirita by sheer force of will. He endured it and thus recieved the benefits. This line of reasoning is so nonsensical it basically invalidates all training and hard work in the entire series if taken at face value.