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Originally Posted by Lucidrago
That's assuming that JD works the same as Regulus Nemea's BtB. It might release the power but does BtB actually causes its possessors to go berserk. Sure it releases the full power of the Lion King, Regulus, and uses up your lifespan. But that doesn't mean it causes the possessors to go berserk like JD does.
And JD is not a matter of controlling your anger. The possessors went berserk because they drowned in the sea of negative emotions of the past possessors, losing themselves in the process. That's why Juggernaut Drive is a one-time use. Juggernaut Drive can't be reversed or controlled. It's a form that gives you immense power enough to defeat gods and asks for your life and sanity in return. Juggernaut Drive was not about controlling your anger. The immense power, the possessor going berserk, and losing their life was Juggernaut Drive. The past possessors drowned themselves in power, with some of them going Juggernaut Drive and killing themselves while destroying everything around them. Once you go Juggernaut Drive, you're not there anymore. There are no emotions to control. You have already lost yourself in the sea of negative emotions.
That's Juggernaut Drive normally. In abnormal cases like Issei, he was able to get out of there because the person who was Issei was still in there. Regularly, Issei should have lost himself in the sea of negative emotions. But the main thing that caused him to go Juggernaut Drive was him apparently losing Asia again. So over all those negative emotions, there was Issei still there moaning over apparently losing Asia when he simply should have drowned in the power that was Juggernaut Drive. So because Issei was still in there, he was able to get out of Juggernaut Drive. That's why Vali called Issei's JD 'incomplete.' Because Issei was still in there.
As in Vali's case, he used his immense demonic powers to maintain JD for a few minutes without succumbing to the negative emotions or his life force being sucked up. This resulted in a huge drain on his demonic powers and stamina. Vali was merely using his demonic powers to keep the floodwaters(of Juggernaut Drive) at bay for a few minutes. But the danger was still there for him. He just used his natural talent to make that power his b****. Well for a few minutes anyway. So Vali wasn't controlling his anger.
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Great post. And I think you're right.
This is where Breakdown the Beast and Juggernaut Drive differ. Yes, they both shorten your lifespan and release the full power of the sealed creature. But that's where the similarities stop. Breakdown the Beast doesn't carry the danger of the user going berserk. There was no sign of that in Sairaorg, either (though he isn't really a true Sacred Gear possessor).
Vritra doesn't have Breakdown the Beast. Saji's Balance Breaker already releases the full power of Vritra, plus there's also fusion in it between their minds where they become one, so there's no room for Breakdown the Beast because for Saji, his Balance Breaker already kind of doubles as a Breakdown the Beast, too. And no, he won't go berserk or lose control. He and Vritra are one in that form, so Vritra won't be taking over (he probably can't).
@Sparda4: Vali controlling his anger wouldn't be enough for that in that case. Remember: Juggernaut Drive stems from the negative emotions of the
past possessors of the Two Heavenly Dragons,
not the current possessors. This is key. Because they are not his own emotions, he can't control them. His only choice, then, is to use his Demonic Power to keep them at bay. Make sense?
But I thought part of the reason why Ise's Juggernaut Drive was incomplete was also because Ddraig's full power wasn't released. Ise hadn't fully awakened it all yet, after all. One proof is the fact that the True Queen, which is an alternative to it, is said to be just as powerful, but it doesn't bring out the full power of Ddraig either.
Edit: One post late.
@Lucidrago: Agreed about the pride thing.