[kagato3]

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Originally Posted by kagato3

Lets see chapters 190 - 222 she has been shown in


kaien's death is no state secret. both ganju and kukaku could and should have known the details. their current behavior indicates either ignorance or denial. stuff like "rukia didn't leave with an explanation" "never told the details" are lame excuses because they're not babies, it's also their responsibility to learn the facts. deep inside it's kukaku who doesn't want to hear the real explanation, because her brother was possessed and died a pretty lame death.

what isshin hates the most is not the hollow who killed masaki, or the shinigami who was responsible for karakura at that time, it's HIS OWN inability to protect his wife, even though he didn't have any powers at the time, because he's a MAN. only sissies go all the way to find excuses and dump blame and hatred on others

kukaku should have apologized/thanked rukia on behalf of her brother, she should have apologized to ukitate for letting him down. it's humiliating indeed, but admitting the humiliating fact like the germans is way better than living in denial like the japs.

You need to reread chpt 181. Kukaku was told by Ukitake what had happend a long time ago and held no blame to Rukia or the shinigami for his death. She was ticked that Rukia herself never apologized for or explained what happend. She basicly just drop off this body covered in swordwounds. And Ganju stated himself to Ichigo before they entered the inner city that he was very young when it happend so he did not know all the details of Kaien's death but did know that Kaien was killed by swords and had not blamed his death on the shinigami that killed him.

Originally Posted by hdx514

yet VC gin gracefully and effortlessly finishes failed experiments. VC gin >> kaien. at best he was a low level VC. and we know all the main players of this current arc has got to be at the very frikken least top level VCs to be of any use. kaien is mediocre by comparison. as a member of one of the 5 noble families, compared to members of the other noble families we've seen, namely yoruichi and byakuya, he's crap.

You mean the same hollows being held at bay by 4 barely trained Shinigamis? The same hollows that major power was to cloak their presence? The same hollows that Gin knew where they were and what thier ablities were? Oh yes thats exactly what happend with Kaien. Oh wait no it's not. The hollow that killed Kaien wiped out a squad of fully trained Shinigamis, had completely differnt powers, was an almost complete unkown, and he was killed because it's powers let it merge with him.

Originally Posted by hdx514

implied by who? you? is it implied anywhere in bleach that A taking longer than B to learn his zanpakutou's name than B means A's zanpakutou is more powerful? yes, ichigo took the longest time to beat his hollow, and we know being the shounen hero his hollow is quite likely the most powerful. but is it implied anywhere in bleach that what applies to ichigo also applies to others?

It's common sence that the stronger the hollow, the stronger the powers, the longer it takes to beat. Learning a zanpakutou name is irelevent as that is in no way the same or even similar.

Originally Posted by hdx514

yachiru's also "in charge" of the female shinigami, and tasuki also abuses ichigo, doesn't mean shit. what we see in real battles is that vaizard hiyori was crushed like an ant by hollow ichigo in shikai mode with a single hand and scared shitless. and she was totally EXPECTING the hollow. compare that to byakuya's composure against UNEXPECTED hollow ichigo in BANKAI or one armed unreleased grimmjow against UNEXPECTED VAIZARD (that's hollow+shinigami powers) ichigo in BANKAI. you find me another leader in bleach this lame and i'll agree with you.

You're claiming she is weak because an unreleased vaizard hiyori was taken off guard by the speed of released hollow Ichigo who then crushed her throat untill she passed out?