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Not sure if this is the right forum to post this...
Here's an example : I ask whether a particular series is a harem series. People tell me its not. I look at the first few chapters and the MC instantly gets a party full of scantily clad hot girls who are all fawning over him.
When i go back to the original people and say "hey, you said this series isnt a harem, but it has all these hot girls fawning over the MC in the first few chapters, whats up with that?", they get upset and start attacking me, saying things like "you must be blind", "stop lying!" or they just move goal posts with "stop complaining, if you dont like it, dont read it!!!".
Another common example is when people tell me that "the MC isn't OP at all", and then in the first three chapters, he gets a "cheat" which instantly makes him stronger than veteran adventurers. Same thing happens when I point out that the MC is OP...I get attacked.
Sometimes i get weird responses like "oh the MC isnt OP because...God (or some other background charater) in the setting is much stronger than him" or "its not a harem because the MC doesn't have sex with the girls". It's like they are doing mental gymnastics or something.
This happens with random people on manga sites, its not like the same 3 guys that I know IRL or anything like that. I just dont get why these people do this? Its not like they are making money by selling the manga, they have no incentive to lie about a manga's content...
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Pretty sure this belongs in General Anime.
Anyway it may just be a difference of standards. I'd like to know just what series people "lied" to you about for reference. I mean, some might not think it "harem" if the hero is only interested in one specific girl and the rest are just interference, or it could really be a pseudo-harem like GJ-bu, where there is no romantic content at all aside from one or two spots (a guy and a girl doesn't on its own amount to a romance, and two guys or girls don't automatically amount to BL/yuri, so a guy and several girls doesn't on its own amount to harem). Same goes with OP, it could be a matter of perspective. In most worlds Goku and Vegeta would be considered OP, but in the Dragon Ball universe the enemies/obstacles they're consistently faced with are so far beyond them that they have to grow even stronger to manage. Are they absurdly strong? Yes. Are they OP? Depends on your definition. I'd say a guy with a minor amount of magic would be OP if the power is rule-breaking for that world and he never/rarely faces any threat that can't easily be stopped. On the other hand, I wouldn't consider a person with the power to level mountains to be OP if it's hardly uncommon for him to face enemies who eat stars.
Ultimately, it's a matter of perspective. Rather than treat them like liars or something, maybe just try and be a bit more clear about what you feel does and doesn't constitute "OP", "harem", etc. It swings both ways after all; if you suggested those shows to someone who wanted an OP harem protagonist they might've come back to you complaining that the guy never has any relationships with the girls and is constantly getting beaten up by God.