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And, as for his lecturing, it doesn't really matter if they listen or not after they deal with the main threat.
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You keep misunderstanding the pope as the main threat, while he is only a plot device. The threat are the waves and the previous episodes made absolutely clear that the current heroes have no chances to defeat them. So the priority is to get them to change their mindset in order to be able to truly cooperate, and that's what Naofumi is trying to do. And in order for that to be effective, he's doing that when they have no choice but listen.