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Old 2015-02-02, 14:02   Link #48
Tenzen12
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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo View Post
You have at least three workers you need to pay for the food, the hunters, the crafters and the merchants. People simply aren't going to work for free and if the price is too low they will rather go work in some other field.
Yet there is several tens of stales and restaurant and seems prosper just fine. If one can't afford costy food, they can just buy cheap fastfood.



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Provided they have the money. By the way a leecher is by definition someone who gets a benefit without contributing. It's not the leechers the issue here, but rather those who aren't in a big guild like Honesty where they can leech off their fellow guild members.
Nah, Leechers are issue enough to Eins bring it here. It doesn't really metter if they leech or just laze around, reasons behind it are same only difference is later doesn't cause Eins headache.

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Eins is not quite concerned about his own leechers not getting enough, but rather the fact that if the RT doesn't do anything about the less wealthy more and more of those people will join Honesty, because of the guild's own social policies.

That's basically the issue that was brought up by that brief exchange of the Honesty higher ups. They are getting too many leechers and the most working members of the guild can't put up with that if that keeps on.

Eins therefore can only see two possible solutions. Either he changes his own guild policies and kicks leechers away (which is what his advisors suggested) or he makes it so his policies will be extended to the whole Akiba so the burden of dealing with leechers won't end up on his shoulders alone.
Yeah that's what Eins want, have RT solve his problems without loosing face. Of course as Shiroe said there have to be something done, but neo communism is not solution.

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It's not like the merchant guild leaders are more objective though, they are clearly the ones who will get damaged by making their recipes public or that the wealth will be redistributed.

The fact remains that Akiba is facing a problem and Eins is the one who brought that up because he is the one who is more directly being affected by it.

Sure he could start kicking people like every other guild does, but would that make the problem go away? Would the leechers start working or simply become poor?
Merchant guilds are aware how much of work is involved in creation of something. So far all they point were correct. NOTHING that was mentioned on conference would solve situation

What they need is make these leecher and co. integrate into society, which is not easy problem in real word with long estabished systems. Unfortunely just forcing them work is not option...
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